<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - Beginner MGB questions]]> 2012-10-22T03:32:00Z PunBB https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/8833/beginner-mgb-questions/ <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> justinthursday wrote:

Then you most likely don't have the newest version of the 64m smart cart.

Maybe not. I only bought it about a month ago though.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/basspuddle 2012-10-22T03:32:00Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138450/#p138450 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> DotMatrix wrote:

that depends, man. does your prosound mod make it sound like the DMG? and what about the processor? you're the manufacturer so i'll trust you.

No not quite but if you are using a mixer or recording software then you can just turn up the bass and what not. The difference isn't that dramatic I don't think.

basspuddle wrote:
justinthursday wrote:

I wouldn't knock the Pocket! The new version of the Smart Cart works great with an MGB. No dimming of the screen when you play a song and the battery life seems to be very normal.

Whenever I start a song on my MGB, it makes the contrast go out of whack, and I have to adjust the contrast dial. Even with brand new batteries.

Then you most likely don't have the newest version of the 64m smart cart.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/thursdaycustoms 2012-10-21T20:37:42Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138394/#p138394 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> justinthursday wrote:

I wouldn't knock the Pocket! The new version of the Smart Cart works great with an MGB. No dimming of the screen when you play a song and the battery life seems to be very normal.

Whenever I start a song on my MGB, it makes the contrast go out of whack, and I have to adjust the contrast dial. Even with brand new batteries.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/basspuddle 2012-10-21T20:30:32Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138393/#p138393 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> that depends, man. does your prosound mod make it sound like the DMG? and what about the processor? you're the manufacturer so i'll trust you.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DotMatrix 2012-10-21T15:54:39Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138377/#p138377 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> I wouldn't knock the Pocket! The new version of the Smart Cart works great with an MGB. No dimming of the screen when you play a song and the battery life seems to be very normal.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/thursdaycustoms 2012-10-21T15:42:19Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138375/#p138375 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> yeah that's what I thought.  DMG it is. I just need to wait until Thursday customs gets the colors i want XD

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DotMatrix 2012-10-21T14:44:16Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138372/#p138372 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> I have a MGB that I backlit/prosounded. Running LSDJ, it kills batteries in 2-3 hours. Prosounding it takes away some of the 'fizziness', but there's still a nasty whine that's left. Sure, the screen has fabulous contrast, but it's not worth it in my opinion.

Get a DMG, there's a reason it's the most popular smile

Oh, and I think that everyone's referring to the same cartridge, this one.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/basspuddle 2012-10-21T14:40:05Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138371/#p138371 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> Is a smartboy cart different from the ems?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DotMatrix 2012-10-21T14:12:25Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138370/#p138370 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> I thought the ems 64 was the latest. Isnt that the one sold in kitsch betns website?

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DotMatrix 2012-10-21T14:11:29Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138369/#p138369 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> I use MGB with LSDJ on smartboy cart and I really like it. It doesn't work well with my USB EMS (64) but I heard it works with later revisions. But this whole MGB vs. EMS story is kinda fuzzy so I don't know really.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/ashimoke 2012-10-21T14:08:22Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138368/#p138368 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> Im buying the DMG, then. It still fits in my hand, anyways, and most likely in my jacketbpocket too. I guess the pictures make it seem huge, but thats just an optical illusion.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/DotMatrix 2012-10-21T13:10:11Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138363/#p138363 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> ashimoke wrote:

Ok then. I always thought that the sound differences between DMG and MGB are caused by amps and other stuff and not by CPU. Guess there is no actual data on this anyway...

There is some data. For example, Herbert Weixelbaum's sound comparison.
http://www.herbertweixelbaum.com/comparison.htm

There's also an interesting (though not 100% confirmed) theory about the DACs of Gameboys described in the GBSOUND document.

PARTIALLY VERIFIED:On older versions (pre-DMG-CPU-05?) of the DMG, the scale

of

the DAC used on the various channels is semi-logarithmic instead of truly

linear. Later Gameboy models (MGB,SGB,CGB,GBA) used either better pull-up

resistor/capacitor and/or analog output DACs, and are almost perfectly

linear.

(Thanks Jeff Frohwein)

Here are some scales for demonstration:



TRUE Logarithmic:

0---------------1--------------2-------------3------------4-----------5----------6---------7--------8-------9------A-----B----C---D--E-F



TRUE Linear:

0--------1--------2--------3--------4--------5--------6--------7--------8--------9--------A--------B--------C--------D--------E--------F



Semi-Logarithmic:

0-----------1-----------2-----------3----------4---------5---------6---------7--------8-------9-------A-------B------C-----D-----E-----F

]]> https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01 2012-10-21T12:02:31Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138361/#p138361 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> Ok then. I always thought that the sound differences between DMG and MGB are caused by amps and other stuff and not by CPU. Guess there is no actual data on this anyway...

]]> https://chipmusic.org/ashimoke 2012-10-21T11:27:53Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138359/#p138359 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> It's the same CPU architecture from the software's point of view. GBC obviously has extended functionality while the functionality is same in DMG and MGB CPUs. But the CPUs are quite possibly made with different manufacturing processes, which could influence the sound. There are of course also other differences in the design apart from the actual CPU chip. This includes the voltage regulator and the audio amplifier (assuming you're not using a prosounded unit) and just the fact that the MGB and GBC are using two AA/AAA batteries instead of four.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/nitro2k01 2012-10-21T11:13:17Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138356/#p138356 <![CDATA[Re: Beginner MGB questions]]> ashimoke wrote:
Saskrotch wrote:

DMG and MGB have different CPUs.

Are you sure?

Yes. DMG, MGB, and CGB are the names of the chips, it's not just the model number.

]]> https://chipmusic.org/Saskrotch 2012-10-21T10:31:07Z https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/138350/#p138350