So because every single web service has the possibility of going sour, that means you should use none of them?

Sound logic, brah.

Nah, becaue none of them are reliable you should have a working backup plan. I'll plan on using them all until they fail, but not exclusively for stuff I care about.

Chainsaw Police wrote:

By this logic, the same could be said about every other website. What proof is there that Bandcamp is gonna turn evil?

Absolutely none. There doesn't have to be. It has happened before, services get bought and suddenly close their doors, or it turns out they can no longer maintain their business and have to shut down on short notice, or suddenly decisions get made that aren't in line with how they used to be for which ever reason. I'd rather have control over my stuff.

And yeah I'm saying the same thing about any other service, too. It could even happen to something like cm.o or 8bc ... whoops

So because every single web service has the possibility of going sour, that means you should use none of them?

Sound logic, brah.

and regarding them becoming evil...meh, it's a lot easier for services like instagram, facebook, and youtube to become evil because everyone uses them. EVERYONE. bandcamp has a much more limited and specific user base (meaning people who upload music), and if they started trying to fuck with the rights people have over their own music, that would probably fuck with their business a lot. people are much less likely to stand for some website trying to take ownership of their music than they are a website claiming ownership over some square cropped vintage filtered photo of last night's dinner.

lastfuture wrote:

This thread actually inspired me to try and code a little shop on my own page that I can use instead of Bandcamp. I love Bandcamp but I prefer not to be dependant on a service that may change into something I hate or cease to exist eventually.

By this logic, the same could be said about every other website. What proof is there that Bandcamp is gonna turn evil?

Absolutely none. There doesn't have to be. It has happened before, services get bought and suddenly close their doors, or it turns out they can no longer maintain their business and have to shut down on short notice, or suddenly decisions get made that aren't in line with how they used to be for which ever reason. I'd rather have control over my stuff.

And yeah I'm saying the same thing about any other service, too. It could even happen to something like cm.o or 8bc ... whoops

Edward Shallow wrote:

I think it's shit to charge someone for downloads. They're are fucking copious scenarios where I've needed to download my music that I haven't had it on hand. Unlike someone, I don't carry my entire music collection with me. So, no, not every artist has it.

The points raised are valid. I'm not going to stop using Bandcamp because of it. It's just a flaw.

Get with the fuckin times, man. Buy an iPod or a dodgy $30 MP3 player. Chuck some MP3s on your phone. If you don't have a device big enough to carry it, upgrade.

Or get a USB drive. Or cloud storage.

It's not that difficult, really.

srsly. if this is really a situation you continuously find yourself facing, rather than talking down to people who have their shit together and make sure that they have their important files readily accessible at any time, you should figure out a permanent solution for such a bizarre problem as opposed to a temporary one.

This thread actually inspired me to try and code a little shop on my own page that I can use instead of Bandcamp. I love Bandcamp but I prefer not to be dependant on a service that may change into something I hate or cease to exist eventually.

By this logic, the same could be said about every other website. What proof is there that Bandcamp is gonna turn evil? From the cool newsletters I keep receiving from then (one of the only email newsletters I'm happy and excited to receive), they just keep adding a bunch of cool and helpful new features that make it easier for the artist to get their tunes listened to.

Get with the fuckin times, man. Buy an iPod or a dodgy $30 MP3 player. Chuck some MP3s on your phone. If you don't have a device big enough to carry it, upgrade.

Or get a USB drive. Or cloud storage.

It's not that difficult, really.

In his defence, I think he was talking about the only method of collecting funds from the listener/purchaser.
That said though, I think that PayPal is one of the best ways for anyone who does eCommerce to collect money; widely supported by a bunch of services, quick, and sometimes reliable (I've had some problems with linking up bank<->PayPal in the past, but collecitng purchases has worked fine for me, and I'm sure hundreds of others.

Sounds like Eddy wither has a major hipster complex, or he's still living in the 80s.

edit: actually leaving Bandcamp would also be stupid. Let's say in conjunction with

Ok if bandcamp has bad user support, that means that you tube is backed by a terrorist organisation.

yeah i've never had anything but good experiences.