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	<updated>2013-02-27T04:14:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi TSC, this thread has been quite for a bit, but I thought I&#039;d jump in anyways. I don&#039;t know much about Renoise and Guru, getting started with it for the GenMDM also. But as I understand from the docs, you can&#039;t use the automation with Guru; you can use it to do setup and I think manual changes. It seems geared towards sending the initial setup to sound modules. <br />As far as in-song changes, I think the only tool is the Instr Midi control Meta device but I think you are right that you would have to embed CC values within the tracks.&nbsp; With a VSTi you can use the Instr Automaton Meta device to send parameters to a CC#.<br />&nbsp; I don&#039;t know a lot about it, but it seem to me that Renoise is very sample-centric, and not too MIDI friendly, so I&#039;m feeling that Aly James&#039; VSTi/Midi tool is the best way to handle the GenMDM outside the Ableton world. <br />Of course Little Scale has&nbsp; some Max/MSP stand alone patches that you can use with the free Max runtime. I really like what I&#039;ve seen of Renoise but I&#039;m just starting to dig into it, so hey, I may be all wrong.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[yogi]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/yogi</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-27T04:14:10Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/157694/#p157694</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>It would be possible to build something using the Guru tool. </p><p><a href="http://www.renoise.com/tools/guru" target="_blank">http://www.renoise.com/tools/guru</a></p><p>I was going to take a shot at this based off the max4live&nbsp; editor.</p><p>But don&#039;t wait for me to do it.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[godinpants]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/godinpants</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T21:36:52Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150164/#p150164</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150082/#p150082"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Not to be impatient or anything.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TSC]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TSC</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T16:00:38Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150082/#p150082</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150081/#p150081"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Well in all fairness, he did say it would be many months before he could integrate. Part of me doesn&#039;t really want to wait that long.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TSC]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TSC</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T15:59:59Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150081/#p150081</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>aw man</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Saskrotch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Saskrotch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T07:00:21Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150038/#p150038</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>This is exactly what I was asking about. I&#039;ll be sure to purchase whenever this becomes available.</p><p>Amazing work!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TSC]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TSC</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T05:58:12Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/150032/#p150032</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>Hi TSC, I am actually working on a YM2612 FM VST 32BIT WIN (with many additions..) with a nice GUI and it will also be useful to control a GENMDM via MIDI and...store patches. <a href="http://youtu.be/nxAKR9f437w" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/nxAKR9f437w</a><br /> That way you could have many instruments per track/channel and change at will with simple program change events...<br />I have not yet a GENMDM (wait for second round delivery ^^) and I think I will have to wait many months before I could fully integrate it.<br />The only thing I need to ask Seb is how many CC parameters I could send at once to the teensy the obvious reason is patch recall.<br />++ AJ</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Aly James]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Aly+James</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T01:09:07Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/149989/#p149989</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[GenMDM patch question for Renoise users...]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/149535/#p149535"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;ve been tinkering with a GenMDM/Renoise combo in the little free time I have and I&#039;m not sure I&#039;m fully understanding the relation of sounds to MIDI channels. I understand *how* the chip is setup and I understand *how* FM synthesis works. In the context of Renoise/patch recall, I&#039;m lost. It doesn&#039;t help that things have been pretty Ableton Live specific thus far. </p><p>Full disclosure: I may be a newb.</p><p>I use the native &quot;Instr. MIDI Control&quot; track function in Renoise to edit my patch, and it&#039;s great, but this is where it gets a little confusing. The Instr. MIDI Control function is tied to a Renoise track, but will not work until you have an assigned instrument, which needs to be assigned to a MIDI channel This would be fine if I only wanted as many instruments as channels were available on the GenMDM, but when I&#039;m looking to trigger percussive synth lines/drums at high speeds, I&#039;m left with two tracks and lag.</p><p>Can you only realistically have one patch/sound per GenMDM MIDI channel? </p><p>Regarding multiple drum sounds on one track: Is this possible only by sending a bunch of split-second, automated CC messages before the notes?</p><p>Is there any possible way to just use something like Guru or the Instr. MIDI Control function to create sounds/patches via MIDI and save the data into the standard instrument slots for recall, similar to how any tracker natively handles samples? I know I could sit there for an hour and type out all the MIDI CC commands by hand in the pattern&#039;s command line, but that&#039;s not very intuitive. Those days are behind me anyway.</p><p>I understand this is all beyond the scope of GenMDM, and more of a MIDI CC/sound module question, but it&#039;s definitely something I&#039;m stuck with regardless.</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://mikebrandlyauctioneer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/puzzled-man.jpg" title="http://mikebrandlyauctioneer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/puzzled-man.jpg" id="forum_image_32487781"><img src="http://mikebrandlyauctioneer.files.wordpress.com/2011/04/puzzled-man.jpg" /></a></p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[TSC]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/TSC</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-07T07:23:58Z</updated>
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