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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>to limit your workspace from getting outta hand, try putting all instruments in a combinator and close it when not used. I believe you can select multiple rack extensions and right click combine.<br />I really like thor synthesizer by the way. managed to get some great sounds out of it.</p><p>Also I&#039;m new. Hi!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Amlan]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Amlan</uri>
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			<updated>2013-04-27T23:42:10Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/161246/#p161246"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I&#039;m starting to do a lot of chip stuff in FL Studio - resampling and sample manipulation are the fuckin&#039; BOMB once you learn how to do it right.</p><p>I also use a lot of raw chip-sampled waveforms in my music. Like the bassline in <a href="https://soundcloud.com/chainsawpolice/creamy" target="_blank">this tune</a>, which was originally a simple square wave and a wav-channel growl, resampled in Kontakt and run through a buttload of effects.</p><p>I&#039;m getting kinda tired with working solely in LSDj or anything else - I&#039;m a mad sample junkie, and prepping sampels to flash to a cart is too much effort for me :V (That said, once I get this Amiga shipped here I&#039;ll be right back on the chip wagon). Plus, the workflow <em>used</em> to be nice, but I&#039;m kinda getting tired of trackers right now. Not even Renosie is doing it for me. I like the flexibility of a DAW, butstill love the sounds of chipmusic.</p><p>Also, from <a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/post/161024/#p16102" target="_blank">this thread</a>:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>n00bstar wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Reason is a great set of tools when used in Rewire mode for those who don&#039;t mind running two separate software together</p></blockquote></div><p>Reason is absolutely brilliant in what its synth units offer. The workflow is really fun for someone like me - wires and knobs out the fuckin&#039; whazoo, and the amount of control you have over everything is really quite staggering.<br />That said, the sequencer is god-awful in my eyes, and by the time I make some really tasty synths I&#039;ve got this crammed-up workspace. Rewiring it into FL Studio is an absolute dream come true.</p><p>I&#039;ve never tried out doing any fancy fakebit things in there, but I might give that a go this arvo!</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Chainsaw Police]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Chainsaw+Police</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-25T03:02:45Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/161246/#p161246</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>squidula (from another thread) wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>This past semester I had a class that introduced Reason and I, and we pretty much hit it off. I have not done any sequencing or recording with it, but when I rewire into Pro Tools, it&#039;s pretty magical. What are you guys doing with Reason? If not Reason, what sequencing DAW are you using? </p><p>As for me, I did a quick little experimentation track found here <a href="http://kevinrogerssound.tumblr.com/post/45931708976/this-track-was-an-assignment-i-had-in-my-synthesis" target="_blank">http://kevinrogerssound.tumblr.com/post &#133; -synthesis</a></p><p>I also did an original sound design for the fifth Colossi in Shadow of the Colossus. That one is not currently online for display</p></blockquote></div>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[kitsch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/kitsch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-03-24T15:08:28Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/161083/#p161083</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>boomlinde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think Disasterpeace used to produce his songs in Reason.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m pretty sure this is correct.&nbsp; I saw an interview where he said he started in Ableton then moved over to Reason at some point.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MostNoble9]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MostNoble9</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T19:23:06Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/154335/#p154335</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I think Disasterpeace used to produce his songs in Reason. TBH, I haven&#039;t kept up very closely with his music lately, but the songs of his I&#039;ve downloaded are still some of my favorites and perfectly balanced the classic elements of chipmusic with the flexibility a DAW offers. Not so much trying to trick Reason into sounding like a classic video game system as they were just freely picking stylistic hints from the genre and putting them in novel context.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[boomlinde]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/boomlinde</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T16:54:04Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>MostNoble9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> </p><p>I literally only use <a href="http://www.tweakbench.com/" target="_blank">these VSTs</a>...</p></blockquote></div><p>lol</p></blockquote></div><p>don&#039;t be knocking pliant&#039;s VSTs! they&#039;ve been around forever (like 12+ years) and are a lot of fun! the step-sequencer fx modules can be a total blast when playing live. (edit: i understand how absolutely ridiculous it is to be using peach as your &quot;chip VSTi&quot; in 2013, though)</p>]]></content>
			<author>
				<name><![CDATA[ilkae]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ilkae</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T16:18:41Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MostNoble9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I use Ableton.&nbsp; I&#039;ve just been using it for such a long time that moving into the fakebit realm just felt really natural.&nbsp; </p><p>I literally only use <a href="http://www.tweakbench.com/" target="_blank">these VSTs</a> along with Ableton&#039;s Operator.</p></blockquote></div><p>I didn&#039;t even know these VSTs existed and now I am mega depressed that they do not work on Macs.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Decktonic]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Decktonic</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T15:58:22Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>MostNoble9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> </p><p>I literally only use <a href="http://www.tweakbench.com/" target="_blank">these VSTs</a>...</p></blockquote></div><p>lol</p></blockquote></div><p>Haha, I know it&#039;s ridiculous.&nbsp; It&#039;s just more about limiting myself than anything.&nbsp; <br />Too many options has me building sounds for way too long instead of actually writing music.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MostNoble9]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MostNoble9</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T08:05:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>MostNoble9 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> </p><p>I literally only use <a href="http://www.tweakbench.com/" target="_blank">these VSTs</a>...</p></blockquote></div><p>lol</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Saskrotch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Saskrotch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T08:01:20Z</updated>
			<id>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/154286/#p154286</id>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
			<link rel="alternate" href="https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/154285/#p154285"/>
			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>I use Ableton.&nbsp; I&#039;ve just been using it for such a long time that moving into the fakebit realm just felt really natural.&nbsp; </p><p>I literally only use <a href="http://www.tweakbench.com/" target="_blank">these VSTs</a> along with Ableton&#039;s Operator.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[MostNoble9]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/MostNoble9</uri>
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			<updated>2013-02-03T07:59:09Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ParallaxMoon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i use reason and ableton together</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve never been able to get into the workflow of ReWiring them together. Do you recommend I try? What are the benefits?</p></blockquote></div><p>I mean there&#039;s a ton of reasons to do it. Using Ableton as a mixing / mastering suite for Reason alone is worth it (to me at least). But basically, anything you can&#039;t do in Reason, you can do in Ableton. Such as: Chipsounds, iZotope&#039;s oZone, Instajungle, some soundfonts (Reason can&#039;t read them if they use ROM samples), Ableton&#039;s built in effects (which to me are way better than any of Reason&#039;s effect modules, and so on.</p><p>I&#039;m almost at the point where I&#039;m only using Reason for Dr. Rex, since I prefer writing i that that to cutting up a break in ableton.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[Saskrotch]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/Saskrotch</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T20:41:38Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>nordloef wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>walter b. gentle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>how do you make &quot;fakebit&quot; without a daw?</p></blockquote></div><p>With hardware synths and samplers. I did that for years.</p></blockquote></div><p>makes sense. coolio.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[walter b. gentle]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/walter+b.+gentle</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T19:23:48Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<p>HAHAHAHAAA</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[herr_prof]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/herr_prof</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T18:55:59Z</updated>
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			<title type="html"><![CDATA[Re: Fakebit? with Propellerhead's Reason?]]></title>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>ParallaxMoon wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t really use them for true fakebit (well, I did once...), but I do use them a lot.</p></blockquote></div><p>What do you mean by &quot;true&quot;? I might have a misconception on the definition of fakebit...</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t use them to try to actually sound like real 8bit. <br />At least, I haven&#039;t yet except for that one time I made that 8bit remix of the Megaman Legends &quot;Main Gate&quot; theme. </p><p>I&#039;m probably splitting a hair here and making up a distinction that does not exist. Carry on.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[SketchMan3]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/SketchMan3</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T18:52:19Z</updated>
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			<content type="html"><![CDATA[<div class="quotebox"><cite>walter b. gentle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>oh lol. dont listen to me then. but i can say ive never seen anyone on the forums refer to reason that i can remember at least. hopefully someone helpful can chime in. q</p></blockquote></div><p>Sorry, I didn&#039;t mean it like that. I was simply trying to explain my affinity for Reason. I know a lot of people are apprehensive about using Reason for the fact they don&#039;t use plug-ins. And even recently with the unveiling 3rd party plugins, it kinda a proprietary plug-in, not a standard like VSTs.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i use reason and ableton together</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;ve never been able to get into the workflow of ReWiring them together. Do you recommend I try? What are the benefits?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I don&#039;t really use them for true fakebit (well, I did once...), but I do use them a lot.</p></blockquote></div><p>What do you mean by &quot;true&quot;? I might have a misconception on the definition of fakebit...</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Doing this will not sound as &quot;dirty&quot; as say a Gameboy because a Gameboy has other artifacts like DC offsets that create various clicks and a 16 step volume envelope.</p><p>If you&#039;re actually using Reason (and not stuck with Reason 5.0 for &quot;unspecified reasons&quot;, *cough* *cough*) I recommend you check out the rack extension PX7, which is Prop&#039;s own DX7 emulator. I&#039;m sure you could make it do some more simpler FM sounds that could fit into a fakebit context. Maybe add some bitcrushing to that (Scream 4 in the &quot;digital&quot; mode, low damage control and adjust parameters P1 and P2 to taste.)</p></blockquote></div><p>Awkward &#039;cause I&#039;m still on 5.0. It&#039;s a legit copy(I&#039;m a personal anti-piracy), but I haven&#039;t been able to shell out the money for the upgrade, even though it $100. I&#039;ve played with PX7 on demo of 6.5, and liked it, ALMOST made me get the upgrade. I have been using Scream4, but funny enough, not on digital, I feel like it&#039;s to harsh for melodies, especially when I use the RPG 8 Arp, because it tends to stack.</p><p>You mentioned added artifacts, do you think maybe there&#039;s a way to emulate them? It&#039;d be cool.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nickmaynard wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>the maelstrom has some great synth sounds (square waves, triangle waves, pwm) and i&#039;m pretty sure it comes with nanoloop drum samples. also the nn19 has a lot of great patches in a folder called &quot;synth raw elements&quot;. you can find a lot of &quot;fakebit&quot; synths in there.</p></blockquote></div><p>Stupidly, I never actually looked at the presets/patch bank, thanks for the heads up, I&#039;ll check&#039;em out</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>shintaroumusic wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I hope this is the kind of feedback you&#039;re looking for</p></blockquote></div><p>0hm@hgawd, this is beautiful.</p><p>One thing I like doing is all under a Combinator, take two synths, both with a Scream 4 and RPG 8. But one RPG8 is an octave drop and the other an octave up, them use the Spider merger. Sometimes I&#039;ll set the Arp rates at different speeds. So when I hit a chord, it&#039;ll activate both synths, and it&#039;ll give a Daft Punk Tron-esque sound.</p>]]></content>
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				<name><![CDATA[ParallaxMoon]]></name>
				<uri>https://chipmusic.org/ParallaxMoon</uri>
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			<updated>2013-01-10T15:48:34Z</updated>
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