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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ashimoke says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Teh D3th St4r wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Dude, Nitro is hella cool. Visit his website... you&#039;ll learn things.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks, I hope I&#039;ll manage to google it somehow...</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><p>I&#039;ll clarify: 3.4-3.5v</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 20:08:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Alley Beach says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Teh D3th St4r wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It was intended to be a wild exaggeration (I know you can&#039;t boost voltage x2) and I think 3.4-5v is about as low as you can get...</p></blockquote></div><p> <br />Im almost positive the output of the DMG&#039;s power board is 5V (see that pun there <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> ) so 5v is the highest <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 19:57:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ashimoke wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Yeah right, I think nitro should just shut up. You can build it smaller anyway.</p></blockquote></div><p>Dude, Nitro is hella cool. Visit his website... you&#039;ll learn things.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, from your reply I wasn&#039;t sure if you understood my post, so that&#039;s why I pointed out the regulator/converter thing. Since you mentioned 2.3 V, even if a made up number, I assumed that what you were addressing was the problem of the voltage being too low when the batteries are about to run out.<br />With regard to the LCD, the first thing to do is to establish whether the LCD is at risk at all. If not, you can just use a 9 V battery and be done with it.</p></blockquote></div><p>It was intended to be a wild exaggeration (I know you can&#039;t boost voltage x2) and I think 3.4-5v is about as low as you can get...<br />Anyway, running 9v strait into the DMG is a colossal waste of power, as the regulator will just convert any extra power into heat, and I&#039;m not sure the regulator in the gameboy can handle 9v for an extended period of time. My idea simply extends battery life and eliminates the risk of damaging your DMG.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:48:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>dsv101 says:</i></b><p>Just letting you know, you should know that yes a dmg will run from a 9v battery, it is the battery life that should be your concern.</p><p>Talking alkeline batteries, here is the comparison of mili-Amp hours (mAh):</p><p>AA: 1800-2600 mAh<br />9v: 565 mAh</p><p>As you can see the juice in a standard alkeline AA is 3.18-4.6 times more.</p><p>Talking lithium batteries:</p><p>AA: 2700-3400 mAh<br />9v: 1200 mAh</p><p>As you can see the juice in a standard lithium AA is 2.25-2.83 times more.</p><p>You can read up about them here: </p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/AA_battery</a><br /><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nine-volt_battery</a></p><p>I would also recommend looking here:</p><p><a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regulator" target="_blank">http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linear_regulator</a></p><p>However, </p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>With regard to the LCD, the first thing to do is to establish whether the LCD is at risk at all. If not, you can just use a 9 V battery and be done with it.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 18:04:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><p>Well, from your reply I wasn&#039;t sure if you understood my post, so that&#039;s why I pointed out the regulator/converter thing. Since you mentioned 2.3 V, even if a made up number, I assumed that what you were addressing was the problem of the voltage being too low when the batteries are about to run out.<br />With regard to the LCD, the first thing to do is to establish whether the LCD is at risk at all. If not, you can just use a 9 V battery and be done with it.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:59:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ashimoke says:</i></b><p>Yeah right, I think nitro should just shut up. You can build it smaller anyway.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:57:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><p>2.3v was just an example, and I haven&#039;t tested it. It was simple nonsense, and your semantics aren&#039;t necessary.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:47:42 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Teh D3th St4r wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>That&#039;s what the buck boost converter would be for. No matter what the battery voltage, the output will always be 6v. Battery down to 2.3v? Output will stil be 6v. So you&#039;ll have power right up until you don&#039;t...</p></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s what I&#039;m saying, though. The DMG already has such a converter (even if I called it regulator). When the voltage of four AA batteries, or one 9 V battery is 2.3 V, no boost converter in the world will save you, because the battery&#039;s internal resistance will stop you from getting enough current to power the Gameboy. In my test, the Gameboy used 120 mA at 2 V. Trying to do that with almost fully decharged batteries would probably be impossible.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:29:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ashimoke wrote:</cite><blockquote></blockquote></div><p>I can build a smaller one.</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nitro2k01 wrote:</cite><blockquote></blockquote></div><p>That&#039;s what the buck boost converter would be for. No matter what the battery voltage, the output will always be 6v. Battery down to 2.3v? Output will stil be 6v. So you&#039;ll have power right up until you don&#039;t...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:23:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><p>A voltage regulator is just a self-adjusting &quot;resistor&quot; (also known as a transistor, you might have heard of those) that does the same thing as described in the calculation, but over a big voltage range. From about the output + 1 V up to when the regulator circuitry breaks down. The downside of either the resistor method or the regulator method is that energy will be wasted as heat to warm up that component. The downside of sing the resistor method in particular is that the voltage seen by the Gameboy will go down as the battery&#039;s voltage goes down, which makes&nbsp; the Gameboy use more current to maintain the same power. You might also get a change in LCD contrast when LSDj plays versus when it doesn&#039;t, as it enters a power save mode when it&#039;s not currently playing.</p><p>Thing is, the Gameboy has a so called switching voltage regulator which can handle a wide voltage range, from at least 4 V up to maybe 9 V or more. The voltage regulator is of the switching variety, which means it regulates the voltage level by turning the input voltage on and off at a high frequency. The DMG regulator also has a transformer which allows it to both boost and &quot;buck&quot; (lower) the voltage.</p><p>The potential problem, apart from going outside the range that the components in the regulator can handle, is that the LCD supply voltage will vary with the battery voltage. The increased voltage with increase LCD voltage <em>could</em> (Not will. Read exactly what I said.) destroy the LCD on the extreme contrast setting. This remains to be seen, however and it should always be safe for the LCD as long as the dial is set to a normal, legible setting.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:03:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ashimoke says:</i></b><p>also: this is the <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/DC-DC-Power-Supply-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-24V-to-0-92V-15V-New-/330840872678?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item4d07a716e6" target="_blank">smallest buck converter I found on ebay</a> (20 x 20 x 5mm)</p><p><a class="postimg" href="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/DC-DC-Power-Supply-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-24V-to-0-92V-15V-New-/00/s/NDAwWDUwMA==/$T2eC16FHJF0E9nmFQVJ,BQ+3P)2myw~~60_12.JPG" title="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/DC-DC-Power-Supply-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-24V-to-0-92V-15V-New-/00/s/NDAwWDUwMA==/$T2eC16FHJF0E9nmFQVJ,BQ+3P)2myw~~60_12.JPG" id="forum_image_79807781"><img src="http://i.ebayimg.com/t/DC-DC-Power-Supply-Buck-Converter-Step-Down-Module-4-75V-24V-to-0-92V-15V-New-/00/s/NDAwWDUwMA==/$T2eC16FHJF0E9nmFQVJ,BQ+3P)2myw~~60_12.JPG" /></a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 11:03:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><p>SICK! This (at 6v) is what I need for my keyboard!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:55:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ashimoke says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Vex wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Id also be happy with finding a confirmed recharble battery set that you could perma install and instal a port it could charge from..maybe even the port already in the dmg.</p></blockquote></div><p>Not exactly the same, but:<br /><a class="postimg" href="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" title="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" id="forum_image_67867827"><img src="http://i49.tinypic.com/1j3f2t.jpg" /></a></p><p>Gameboy pocket with mini usb (for charging only). It has a li-po battery similar to <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/2x-Tigers-EFLB5001S-1S-3-7V-600mAh-15C-LiPo-Battery-MQX-120SR-V929-Solo-Pro-328A-/400347896727?pt=US_Character_Radio_Control_Toys&amp;hash=item5d36981b97" target="_blank">this one</a> (600mAh) and <a href="http://www.ebay.com/itm/LiPo-Charger-Basic-Mini-USB-Battery-Charger-module-/220966997668?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&amp;hash=item3372a8cea4" target="_blank">this</a> lipo charger (cut down in half). You can also get the charger at sparkfun.<br />I have yet to put the battery life in a serious test but it seem really good (at least compared to the crappy AAAs I&#039;ve been using before). I can also use my USB EMS with no problems.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:42:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Teh D3th St4r says:</i></b><p>I have it dialed down to 5.8v running it through some resistors and a converter on a breadboard right now.<br />Gonna see how everything goes, then I&#039;m gonna experiment with a LTC3789 buck boost converter. That should be significantly more efficient, and have comparable battery life to the 4 AA&#039;s.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 16 Feb 2013 10:27:07 +0000</pubDate>
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