hold on, i think this is the most important thing i have ever seen on this website, chip music dot org.
let's just take a moment.

i'm gonna go back to never thinking about this place again.

everyone welcome mick rippon to chipmusic.org

lol

probably

i've made threads like this but used them to recommend good stuff rather than chastise the bad.

i'd say that chipmusic isn't inherently of low quality compared to pop or jazz or fromp metal but it does partially appeal to people from various scenes - retro dance, game soundtrack remix/homage, one hour compo-ing, experimental loop degrader weirdos - who will set aside a great bulk of what's possible in music for the sake of craftmanship, authenticity, tunnel-visioned perfectionism or any other goal which conflicts with pure composition, and arrive at music it's easy to find unsatisfying out of context. i mean i almost totally eschew the idea of modern production and favor the idea that a song is done when the last note is sequenced, and some people will call that art, others will call it laziness, and others still will have no opinion.

That isn't how CM.O works though, that parallel is kinda silly, Netlabels fill that role, places like CM.O and other forums are for exactly what you've been talking about as a negative, a rolling discussion of the medium. 

Coming into a forum less than a month ago and expecting people to know exactly what your history in chip is is a bit presumptuous, isn't it?  People see a name they may not recognize and treat them like a new person,  seems like people were just trying to help someone they didn't know, who may not be aware of such things.

I think this discussion has been beat to death,  the sentiment that there's no point in talking about the state of chipmusic is not a new one.  It might not be one that I agree with entirely, but I can't say I haven't been there.

Yes there is, I've seen some wonderful discussions on this very topic take place,  saying stuff like this is not the way to go about it.

No I dont think youre pretentious, but this is user generated content. It's not about "chipmusic", it's about the internet at large. Most youtube videos are shit, but that's ok because you don't have to watch them all. We just need better ways to find good content.

No I think chipmusic attracts people who like melody.

That's an interesting point of view. But I disagree. I'll give a real example of a craft show that is held here each year in Montreal called Le Salon des Metiers D'Art. Smiths, crafters, artisans.. whatever you call the people that expose there, all have to submit their work for peer approval before being accepted at the event.The review process is not about who likes what, but rather on quality control to make sure that what is on offer is of a sufficient level that people from outside their community will be interested.

Anyways. I find it funny that people tell me to move on and just don't listen when something doesn't strike my fancy. It's as if you people imagine me there, going through every second of every song raging at the world because it's bad. Of course I skip the songs, of course I pick and choose what I like, of course I listen to chipmusic from outside this forum...ffs I was making chips in the 80s. Give me some credit.. But the whole point of the thread was to open a discussion about whether or not people find chipmusic to be of lower *musical* quality than other genres. In six pages, there has been like 4 replies that were honest opinion with a sense of discussion.. the rest is just people taking shit personally or saying there's no point in discussing it and making all kinds of parallels with things other than chipmusic. Is there no place for discussions without getting one's panties in a ball here?

Imagine going to an art and crafts show in your local area- just any arts and crafts show.

There's going to be hundreds of vendors selling all kinds of things- from amateur to professional.  How many of those vendors are actually selling something you're going to buy?  Very very very few, if any.  You may pick up something that looks cool and say "Hey, this is neat" but it doesn't mean you're going to buy it.  It's a good allegory for this website and bandcamp and basically all websites full of music/art/choices- how many times have you actually BOUGHT something?  If we don't like it, we have the choice to move on.  We also have the choice to pick WHAT we like.  That's kind of great!

What is being proposed, in part, is that we make the craft show ONLY display the 5 vendors from which we want to buy and that quantity, in this case, is not to the community's advantage.  The thing is... we can't rent a venue, find space, or even really have a craft show without all of those other vendors, even if they are selling poorly crafted birdhouses and lanyards.  The mere fact that there is so much stuff out there should provide bigger audiences for the music... and therefore allow our allegorical craft show to rent a giant space rather than a tiny, specialized one.

TL;DR.  With this board comes all levels of talent, from beginners to pros.  I think that cultivates a community.  I think that's a really positive thing!  Is it really all that bad that people are really into making chiptunes and trying to put their work out there?  I like it.  It's inspiring to see people trying.  And if we don't like their work, we don't like their work.  It's that simple.  There's no anger or frustration about it.  Listen to what you like to listen to.

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alternatively this needs to make a comeback

aanaaanaaanaaana.net :: cinnamonymous with crow jollity

i think there should be a new piece of punctuation to indicate when you are joking on the internet.

Have you even read the damn thread?

who even cares about quality, its a gameboy GOD, yolo

Jep.

$0.02 etc

Just a bit.

i just don't quite get this whole argument - the same could be said about any other production style or genre of music.

We live in an age of a wealth - an overbearing wealth - of information. Music communities are no different in this regard, many things are made, only some of them are good enough to be considerably above average.

In the end - let's create technology and culture that allows people to broaden their own horizons, and thereby have the opportunity to make the best music that they can.

basing your opinion on a handfull of tracks on this website seems a bit silly.