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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>goto80 says:</i></b><p>ui, maybe the history chapter in my thesis (<a href="http://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/o.o.i.s?id=24923&amp;postid=1662548" target="_blank">http://www.lunduniversity.lu.se/o.o.i.s &#133; id=1662548</a>) could help + have a look at chipflip.wordpress.com/timeline. In my thesis there&#039;s lots of references to other places where u can look too. If u&#039;re looking for more regional history perhaps Akira could help with that. Good luck!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 08 May 2013 15:01:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>The Silph Scope says:</i></b><p>Goattracker.</p><p>It&#039;ll scare off the n00bs.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 06:54:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>SJSFC says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>defiantsystems wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>renoise.</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 07 May 2013 05:18:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ui says:</i></b><p>goto80, yah!!! that&#039;s exactly what i do when teaching pixel art. Since &quot;im not going to teach them how to draw&quot;, i usually adapt myself to each student.<br />I still have a month or so to prepare everything, and maybe you can help me here...</p><p>Im planning to teach them some &quot;history&quot;, communities, labels, artists, etc... which place you recomend me to check all these info? (if possible)</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 22:24:21 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>goto80 says:</i></b><p>I recommend that you ask the people some questions before you plan too much of the workshop. Like what they would like to do, and what kind of knowledge they have of computers and music. And that might make it easier to choose the &quot;right&quot; tracker. </p><p>Personally, I find it very hard to teach trackers to complete n00bs. But I&#039;ve only tried with stupid C64-software and LSDj... If I&#039;d do a chip/tracker workshop today, I&#039;d do it with Renoise because I think it might be easier to explain, and feels relevant to more people.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 06 May 2013 22:00:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>PaK-Zer0 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ui wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Delek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DefleMask is available for Mac, Windows and Linux too.</p></blockquote></div><p>YESH!, added</p><p>- Schism Tracker<br />- Klystrack<br />- SunVox<br />- GB emulator + LSDJ / Carillon<br />- BITBIN - <a href="http://bit.s3m.us/" target="_blank">http://bit.s3m.us/</a><br />- LPGT<br />- GoatTracker<br />- Deflemask</p></blockquote></div><p>Impulse/Schism tracker is totally a classic and runs fine in almost every computer made from late 90&#039;s and on. It would be my favourite if you want to do an old skool based tracker workpshop.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:41:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>PaK-Zer0 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p><a class="postimg" href="http://dl.openhandhelds.org/caanoo/screenshots/little_piggy_tracker.png" title="http://dl.openhandhelds.org/caanoo/screenshots/little_piggy_tracker.png" id="forum_image_87961902"><img src="http://dl.openhandhelds.org/caanoo/screenshots/little_piggy_tracker.png" /></a></p><p>well, how the heck is anyone going to relate to that? <strong> It&#039;s just horrible to look at</strong>, it&#039;s horrible for me and I know what I&#039;m doing with it.&nbsp; Eugh.&nbsp; At least with pc trackers related things are either on the same screen or can be split onto the same screen.&nbsp; It&#039;s really difficult to associate one thing with another in this (and LSDJ&#039;s) interface, and it&#039;s the association between one part of a tracker and another that&#039;s really important for learning.&nbsp; &nbsp;I know a lot of c64 trackers have the same problem too.</p></blockquote></div><p>Sarcasm on:<br />You deserve nothing but pain and punishment for saying that. That&#039;s how trackers used to look! We like horribles interfaces don&#039;t you get it?<br />Sarcasm is never off</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:37:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>PaK-Zer0 says:</i></b><p>This:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>egr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LGPT!</p></blockquote></div><p>Or this:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>deflemask</p></blockquote></div><p>This is good too<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Schism Tracker</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ui says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Delek wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>DefleMask is available for Mac, Windows and Linux too.</p></blockquote></div><p>YESH!, added</p><p>- Schism Tracker<br />- Klystrack<br />- SunVox<br />- GB emulator + LSDJ / Carillon<br />- BITBIN - <a href="http://bit.s3m.us/" target="_blank">http://bit.s3m.us/</a><br />- LPGT<br />- GoatTracker<br />- Deflemask</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 19:20:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Alley Beach says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>egr wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>LGPT!</p></blockquote></div><p>i read this as LGBT xD</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 18:59:10 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Delek says:</i></b><p>DefleMask is available for Mac, Windows and Linux too.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 18:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ui says:</i></b><p>Thx guys!... specially Saskrotch (for metion the MAC thing). And guys, plz... this is not a discussion of what tracker is better or not. This is more to get a nice tool for ppl who have NO IDEA what&#039;s a tracker or how to compose &quot;chipmusic&quot; by their own with free tools. Shamely the classroom has just MAC computers, but they all use PC, so i will probably show few trackers, since the workshop is 2 hours per day and 11 days.</p><p>What ppl have recomended me so far for mac are:<br />- Schism Tracker<br />- Klystrack<br />- SunVox<br />- GB emulator + LSDJ / Carillon<br />- BITBIN - <a href="http://bit.s3m.us/" target="_blank">http://bit.s3m.us/</a><br />- LPGT<br />- GoatTracker</p><p>Thx for any suggest, if you guys considerate any other let me know. Also what you guys think is important to show those ppl.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 15:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>my.Explosion says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Saskrotch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>30 seconds on google =</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Considering Renoise is a successor of NoiseTrekker, there shouldn&#039;t be much doubt how to pronounce it...</p></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><p>Well I&#039;ll be damned. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Guess that debate I had regarding it a few years ago was a waste of time. Oh well.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 05 May 2013 07:54:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Saskrotch says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>my.Explosion wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>xX 8 BIT CHAMPION Xx wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is Renoise pronounced rə.nwaz or ri:.noiz?</p></blockquote></div><p>Pretty sure its rə.nwaz... It doesn&#039;t have an audible &quot;noise&quot; word that&#039;s for sure... I&#039;ve been burned before.</p><p>Aaaaactually... I&#039;m not even sure it&#039;s supposed to have an audible &#039;s&#039; in there???</p></blockquote></div><p>30 seconds on google =</p><div class="quotebox"><blockquote><p>Considering Renoise is a successor of NoiseTrekker, there shouldn&#039;t be much doubt how to pronounce it...</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 23:44:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Alpine says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>well, how the heck is anyone going to relate to that?&nbsp; It&#039;s just horrible to look at, it&#039;s horrible for me and I know what I&#039;m doing with it.&nbsp; Eugh.&nbsp; At least with pc trackers related things are either on the same screen or can be split onto the same screen.</p></blockquote></div><p>This, I never really got to grips with piggy because of it&#039;s look, it isn&#039;t nice to stare it, and it&#039;s a bit of a pain to learn to use. For something with a good, user-friendly interface, something like milky, or famitracker is going to be your best bet. For a workshop, each have their own merits, milkytracker has it&#039;s very user-friendly design with buttons that clearly tell you what things do, and famitracker, although not as friendly, produces sounds that more people, that the general public would call associate with chip.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Actually, thinking about it at a chip music workshop what hardware are people going to best relate to?&nbsp; &nbsp;I&#039;d imagine it&#039;d be gameboy, so perhaps that is the route to go.</p></blockquote></div><p>Although it is a better tool to use, as it&#039;s recognizable, and you don&#039;t have to explain that &quot;No even though it is on a computer, this is the kind of music that would play on an NES/Amiga/Commodore 64&quot; but you do have the problem that without a decent explanation, it can be quite a pain to use. Seeing as this is going to be a workshop, although I don&#039;t know the age of the people, or the setup of the workshop, I can&#039;t say for certain, but it&#039;s going to be better if there&#039;s less talking, and more hands-on stuff there.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 04 May 2013 23:21:05 +0000</pubDate>
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