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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Chowdit1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>jefftheworld wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>so when you blow on a cartridge the oxygen from the Carbon Dioxide that humans exhale bonds with the contacts and oxidizes them? Interesting. I always thought it was blowing dust off of the contacts that helped, not the humidity. I always tried to blow into the cartridges with a more closed embouchure. Does that mean it&#039;d actually be better to use a wider embouchure to allow more humidity to escape?</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;d be willing to bet it&#039;s neither humidity nor dust that makes the biggest difference. Surface dust is not likely to be a big issue and small amounts of humidity won&#039;t likely do much of anything.</p><p>I think a majority of the effect is in the re-seating of the cartridge. Pulling the cartridge out and replacing it allows a chance of better contact and maybe even causes both a degree a scraping of that oxidized layer (which is pretty thin).</p><p>That said, the best cleaning technique is with alcohol and scrubbing. For extremely bad cases, a very, very light grade of sandpaper used conservatively will make a big difference.</p></blockquote></div><p>I always use a Q-Tip with/without rubbing alcohol.</p>]]></description>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>jefftheworld says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>so when you blow on a cartridge the oxygen from the Carbon Dioxide that humans exhale bonds with the contacts and oxidizes them? Interesting. I always thought it was blowing dust off of the contacts that helped, not the humidity. I always tried to blow into the cartridges with a more closed embouchure. Does that mean it&#039;d actually be better to use a wider embouchure to allow more humidity to escape?</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;d be willing to bet it&#039;s neither humidity nor dust that makes the biggest difference. Surface dust is not likely to be a big issue and small amounts of humidity won&#039;t likely do much of anything.</p><p>I think a majority of the effect is in the re-seating of the cartridge. Pulling the cartridge out and replacing it allows a chance of better contact and maybe even causes both a degree a scraping of that oxidized layer (which is pretty thin).</p><p>That said, the best cleaning technique is with alcohol and scrubbing. For extremely bad cases, a very, very light grade of sandpaper used conservatively will make a big difference.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 20:16:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Chowdit1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Alpine wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Chowdit1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think they say that blowing into the cartridge is bad, because it blows a little bit of wind, and the wind scratches the &quot;cartridge board&quot;.</p></blockquote></div><p>what</p></blockquote></div><p>&quot;What?&quot; What do you mean &quot;what&quot;?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:47:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Alpine says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Chowdit1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think they say that blowing into the cartridge is bad, because it blows a little bit of wind, and the wind scratches the &quot;cartridge board&quot;.</p></blockquote></div><p>what</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 18:13:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Chowdit1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>so when you blow on a cartridge the oxygen from the Carbon Dioxide that humans exhale bonds with the contacts and oxidizes them? Interesting. I always thought it was blowing dust off of the contacts that helped, not the humidity. I always tried to blow into the cartridges with a more closed embouchure. Does that mean it&#039;d actually be better to use a wider embouchure to allow more humidity to escape?</p></blockquote></div><p>I think they say that blowing into the cartridge is bad, because it blows a little bit of wind, and the wind scratches the &quot;cartridge board&quot;.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:39:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Chowdit1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>more likely one of the ICs.&nbsp; its unfortunate they are all COB and blobbed like that...&nbsp; </p><p>do you have a programming device you could try to pull the ROM off with, perhaps?</p><p>its good you know the cart at least used to work.&nbsp; the battery is most likely dead, in a traditional setup this would only affect the SRAM&#039;s ability to hold data during power off,</p><p>but....&nbsp; since everything is covered in goo who knows what they&#039;ve done.</p><p>just speculating, but changing the battery might have an effect on the cart other than just allowing for data retention.&nbsp; i don&#039;t see why they would have integrated other features of the cart to be reliant on this, but its possible (if they wanted to not use a vreg is all i can think of, but that&#039;d be a whacky decision to make).</p><p>thats really going out on a limb.&nbsp; </p><p>its something that is probably needing to be addressed anyways (the battery)</p></blockquote></div><p>Isn&#039;t the purpose of that &quot;goo&quot; supposed to be hiding the tiny chips (EX. C1, C2, C3, C4, C5, C6)?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:36:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Chowdit1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Retrogamer09 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>oh, wait...</p><p>have you tried this in a color console instead of the pocket?</p><p>the sticker indicates they are color ROMs, not all GBC ROMs play back on non-color devices.&nbsp; the Nintendo ones like this give you the nice incompatibility screen, but since this is a pirate cart who knows...</p><p>worth a shot!</p></blockquote></div><p>You have a good point, I just tested it in a GB boy color, it didn&#039;t work <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>Is there a chance that the problem may be the resistor or the capacitor, or the chip itself? By looking closely at it I can&#039;t see anything burned or wrong.</p><p>Thanks guys</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, if it didn&#039;t work with the GB Boy Color, also, the cartridge could be fried. Did you check the consoles, with another cartridge?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 06 Aug 2013 17:33:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kitsch says:</i></b><p>haha</p><p>maybe its a combo of blowing dust off and humidity?&nbsp; </p><p>maybe there is no cart failure inside a tropical storm and/or hurricane even</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:45:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>SketchMan3 says:</i></b><p>so when you blow on a cartridge the oxygen from the Carbon Dioxide that humans exhale bonds with the contacts and oxidizes them? Interesting. I always thought it was blowing dust off of the contacts that helped, not the humidity. I always tried to blow into the cartridges with a more closed embouchure. Does that mean it&#039;d actually be better to use a wider embouchure to allow more humidity to escape?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 20:15:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kitsch says:</i></b><p>more likely one of the ICs.&nbsp; its unfortunate they are all COB and blobbed like that...&nbsp; </p><p>do you have a programming device you could try to pull the ROM off with, perhaps?</p><p>its good you know the cart at least used to work.&nbsp; the battery is most likely dead, in a traditional setup this would only affect the SRAM&#039;s ability to hold data during power off,</p><p>but....&nbsp; since everything is covered in goo who knows what they&#039;ve done.</p><p>just speculating, but changing the battery might have an effect on the cart other than just allowing for data retention.&nbsp; i don&#039;t see why they would have integrated other features of the cart to be reliant on this, but its possible (if they wanted to not use a vreg is all i can think of, but that&#039;d be a whacky decision to make).</p><p>thats really going out on a limb.&nbsp; </p><p>its something that is probably needing to be addressed anyways (the battery)</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>bitjacker says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Apeshit wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>bitjacker wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>1. insert cart<br />..........................X10<br />2. remove cart</p><p>then blow into the gameboy.<br /> its the oxygen that makes it work.</p></blockquote></div><p>Can&#039;t tell if you&#039;re joking here. Oxygen is what causes cartridge not to work, they&#039;re surrounded by it all the time, hence &quot;oxidation.&quot;</p><p>Blowing in a cartridge isn&#039;t really going to do anything but damage it more in the long run.</p></blockquote></div><p> of course i was joking.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:19:23 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Retrogamer09 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>kitsch wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>oh, wait...</p><p>have you tried this in a color console instead of the pocket?</p><p>the sticker indicates they are color ROMs, not all GBC ROMs play back on non-color devices.&nbsp; the Nintendo ones like this give you the nice incompatibility screen, but since this is a pirate cart who knows...</p><p>worth a shot!</p></blockquote></div><p>You have a good point, I just tested it in a GB boy color, it didn&#039;t work <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/sad.png" width="15" height="15" alt="sad" /></p><p>Is there a chance that the problem may be the resistor or the capacitor, or the chip itself? By looking closely at it I can&#039;t see anything burned or wrong.</p><p>Thanks guys</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:18:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kitsch says:</i></b><p>oh, wait...</p><p>have you tried this in a color console instead of the pocket?</p><p>the sticker indicates they are color ROMs, not all GBC ROMs play back on non-color devices.&nbsp; the Nintendo ones like this give you the nice incompatibility screen, but since this is a pirate cart who knows...</p><p>worth a shot!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:15:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kitsch says:</i></b><p>^ yes</p><p>its the humidity which helps when you blow in them (helps make contact better momentarily).&nbsp; </p><p>but, yeah, doesn&#039;t really solve anything.</p><p>there is this nifty stuff called &#039;contact cleaner&#039; just for this sort of thing...&nbsp; it cleans oxidization off electromechanical parts/etc (people use it to clean dirty pots a lot).&nbsp; check it out!</p><p>(although, tbh, the alcohol should have done the cleaning well enough)</p><p>its also REALLY important to note....&nbsp; if you are cleaning the cart, but not bothering to clean the contacts in the gameboy too, you aren&#039;t eliminating the problem most likely.&nbsp; its like when people change out the NES fingers for new ones, then stick some dirty cart into them which sort of defeats the whole point.&nbsp; so, clean both.&nbsp; when i was stocking the NES edge connectors this came up all the time</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 17:00:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Apeshit says:</i></b><p>.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Jul 2013 16:57:29 +0000</pubDate>
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