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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Songs Reversed]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Analog says:</i></b><p>Nanoloop can reproduce your loops backwards and stuff. pretty great.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 01:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Ateno says:</i></b><p>Wow, lots of great insights!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 13 Oct 2013 01:07:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Songs Reversed]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>SketchMan3 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>sleepytimejesse wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, a fundamental difference occurs between visual art and music. Our medium happens across time. A picture mirrored is much different than a sequence of musical events reversed, in my opinion.</p><p>but anyway, pretentious theoretical stuff aside, a lot of music sounds great reversed. Some composers use complex planning to actually use subject matter which can be reflected upon itself. Lots of canons and fugues do this.</p><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xUHQ2ybTejU" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p></blockquote></div><p>FWIW, I think that this:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i think that backwards its the same thing. like looking at some visual art reflected L/R. not much is lost</p></blockquote></div><p>was said in respose to this:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Ateno wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>is there any reason that the song still has musical appeal even backwards or just my familiarity with the songs causing me to enjoy it since I made it?</p></blockquote></div><p>which is pretty spot-on, I&#039;d say.</p><p>Also: <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /> J. S. Bach! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 12:48:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Songs Reversed]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>sleepytimejesse says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i think that backwards its the same thing. like looking at some visual art reflected L/R. not much is lost</p></blockquote></div><p>Well, a fundamental difference occurs between visual art and music. Our medium happens across time. A picture mirrored is much different than a sequence of musical events reversed, in my opinion.</p><p>but anyway, pretentious theoretical stuff aside, a lot of music sounds great reversed. Some composers use complex planning to actually use subject matter which can be reflected upon itself. Lots of canons and fugues do this.</p><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/xUHQ2ybTejU" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:53:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Victory Road says:</i></b><p>i did a song like this about 5 years ago <a href="http://www.soundcloud.com/midimachine/infinite-illusion" target="_blank">http://www.soundcloud.com/midimachine/infinite-illusion</a></p><p>needless to say, it sounds the same in reverse.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 10:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Invisible Robot Hands says:</i></b><p>I buried Sabrepulse</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:29:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ilkae says:</i></b><p>forwards: <a href="http://ilkae.bandcamp.com/track/rodomontade-b" target="_blank">http://ilkae.bandcamp.com/track/rodomontade-b</a><br />backwards and markov&#039;d: <a href="https://soundcloud.com/ilkae/rodo2r3" target="_blank">https://soundcloud.com/ilkae/rodo2r3</a></p><p>sometimes i end up with better songs than how i wrote them; usually i don&#039;t but it&#039;s funny anyway.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 06:04:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>seatrash says:</i></b><p>whenever i get to a feeling of being somewhat finished with a song in lsdj, i slow down the tempo to 40 BPM and listen to the whole track to see if there&#039;s any unintentional chord tension. </p><p>i think i&#039;ve tried playing one of my songs backwards before, but i never really got anything out of it</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:59:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>SketchMan3 says:</i></b><p>I&#039;ve done a few reversies in my day. It&#039;s really nice to be able to create two songs out of one.<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>sandneil wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i think that backwards its the same thing. like looking at some visual art reflected L/R. not much is lost</p><p>in the music it can be disconcerting if you use a lot of volume envelopes but otherwise its just a reflection of the original. every atemporal element of the song is identical and some things temporal don&#039;t change much either. 4/4 is still 4/4, interval movements are the same but opposite direction, tempo doesn&#039;t change.</p><p>the song will lose a lot of your intentions depending on how you wrote it - tensions come after resolutions and so on.</p><p>if you think of your song in a more abstract organisation of information than just (a sequence of bytes) nothing actually changed apart from the piece of information which says &quot;listen to this forwards&quot;. which likely you didn&#039;t even encode into your song, everyone just assumed that forwards would be the best direction to listen</p><p>so i think that&#039;s why it still sounds good backwards. depending on the software you use you may be able to reverse the notes without reversing the sounds - which can be really cool</p></blockquote></div><p>^ Said it way better than I could have. All of this.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 12 Oct 2013 02:14:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Alpine says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sometimes I play songs at half speed, and you catch timing, pitch issues really easy that way</p></blockquote></div><p>Yeah, I do this as well, it&#039;s hella helpful sometimes.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:38:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>sandneil says:</i></b><p>i think that backwards its the same thing. like looking at some visual art reflected L/R. not much is lost</p><p>in the music it can be disconcerting if you use a lot of volume envelopes but otherwise its just a reflection of the original. every atemporal element of the song is identical and some things temporal don&#039;t change much either. 4/4 is still 4/4, interval movements are the same but opposite direction, tempo doesn&#039;t change.</p><p>the song will lose a lot of your intentions depending on how you wrote it - tensions come after resolutions and so on.</p><p>if you think of your song in a more abstract organisation of information than just (a sequence of bytes) nothing actually changed apart from the piece of information which says &quot;listen to this forwards&quot;. which likely you didn&#039;t even encode into your song, everyone just assumed that forwards would be the best direction to listen</p><p>so i think that&#039;s why it still sounds good backwards. depending on the software you use you may be able to reverse the notes without reversing the sounds - which can be really cool</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 21:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>defPREMIUM says:</i></b><p>shintarou r u tryna lead me astray</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:43:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ShintarouMusic says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>defPREMIUM wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>it&#039;s bad because satan can talk to you that way thats why u like it because satan stop b4 too late</p></blockquote></div><p>no man its ok like the beatles they hide xtra words n secret messages from them u can here</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:39:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>defPREMIUM says:</i></b><p>it&#039;s bad because satan can talk to you that way thats why u like it because satan stop b4 too late</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:29:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>herr_prof says:</i></b><p>Sometimes I play songs at half speed, and you catch timing, pitch issues really easy that way</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 11 Oct 2013 20:28:28 +0000</pubDate>
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