I do this. Noise - Stable - use Shape instead of TSP, and everything's fine.

this is how you use samples in lsdj.

now everyone quit complaining and try it out.

I just updated to the newest version of lsdj so that I can use the "Stable" setting on noise instruments as I was sick of my kick drum cutting out randomly. This caused every noise instrument I had to get completely warped due to the change in tables. Even though (especially on the yahoo list) no one seemed to use the TSP table column for noise shaping, I certainly did and so has every single noise kick/snare example I've ever seen. I was able to recreate and occasionally even improve my drums by switching to the S command in the tables, but I am a little surprised by the lack of discussion that seemed to get. Did everyone just adapt or are most people still running 3.9.6?

Hi! I'm new here as well in chiptunes, but I think I have a solution for this problem.

As I see bass drums they don't need to be so low. As long as they are lower enought from the snare and are punchy a little. It will sound good enought for a worst case scenario like this.

I'm using the following drum in a drum&bass pattern. It's noisy, but the whole drum line is, so it hase a nasty feeling. (I've only tryed this on BGB yet, so sorry if it isn't good on the real hardware.)

Channel: NOI
Type: Noise

Envelope: $C2
Shape: $E1 (You can try other shapes becouse there are some other useable ones)

Table: (This is what trying to give the characteristics to the drum.)
TSP CMD
EA -00
0C -00
0A -00
F2 -00
F1 -00
F5 -00
00 K00

Note: C3 (raising octaves raisis pitch, but this is not commonly useable i think)

The other instrument in case you want to try:

Snare:
---------
Channel: NOI
Type: Noise

Envelope: $C2
Shape: $E1

Note: C3 (C4 is a higher pitch, but higher octaves only lowering the volume of this note)

High Hat:
-------------
Channel: NOI
Type: Noise

Envelope: $B1
Shape: $FF

Note: C7 (higher octaves only lowering the volume of this note - I used 7 becouse it will not stand out mutch, so 1 note at a time isn't hurt so much)

The pattern for a simple dnb drum line:

BassKick
-
HighHat
-
Snare
-
HighHat
-
HighHat
-
BassKick
-
Snare
-
HighHat
-

Happy experimenting!

Yeah ^ That...Any word on it going back up???

Yo guys what's up with the chip-patch book website? I haven't been able to access it for the past few days...

this thread really helped out. I combined the noise kick with some bassy drums in the wave channel using a kit of 909 and 808 I believe. works well together.

thanks goatslacker and everyone else!

This!
I used a slight variation of this kick (just tweaked the TSP on the table according to the tempo) in a few songs: if you some bass or some full sounds on the other channel, it sounds really good. I don't think you can go any deeper with the noise.

edit: props to Goatslacker for posting it on the patchbook.

It depends how deep you want but if you're using 3.9.x then try a noise instrument with shape D0 and in the table put:

FF  -00
FD  -00
FB  -00
--    -00
--   K00

I find that this is an ok sounding one, not a sub kick but it's deepish. You have to make sacrifices sometimes sadly.

Moved the topic to the right forum.

I'll pick up a domain for the patch book. Thanks for the suggestion

yeah it is not possible with those channels. the instrument in pulse 1 is taking up every slot and the instrument in pulse 2 is constant envelope of 2B so it would mess with everything pretty bad. I might be able to use the wave channel tho..... we will see. thanks for the help guys.

low C's in shape? recently i use ~C4 shape, ~F2 envelope, throw a non-G'd table on it and then double it with pulse kicks... sounds good to me. even if you are using both pulse channels, you can almost always find a way to throw in the bass hits without it detracting from the pulse melody or what have you.

arranging FTW!

I love the lsdj cookbook. whoever has it should really get it a domain name.

http://lsdj.2x26.com/patch/goatslacker/thud-noise-kick

hope that helps.

best advice is to EQ the kick to get a bassy sound.

yeah that is what I am thinking. =/ I could probably make it bassy with post effects but that is lame