Moved from general discussion.

also with regards to lsdj the only bad habits from macros i can tell people have is never digging into manual wave synth commands.

I think It's a little too late for that to be an option.

There's always Renoise.

But... but... but... Jazz... *does jazz hands*

I hate Jazz and I still consider those lsdj commands essential to my workflow. I would hate to have to manually do everything in used to doing in a macro command.

Not writing Jazz helps.

Any and all rhythmic patterns I make in Lsdj have all of those effects.  G, K, and D commands are everything.

LSDJ have lot of shortcuts to avoid writing lot of effects, some of them can evolve in bad habits.
As sketchman3 said, in every other normal tracker you use Note Delays, Note Cuts and Speed Commands to make complex rhythms and groove tricks.

By heart, in DefleMask:
9xx - Set Speed Value 1
Fxx - Set Speed Value 2
ECxx - Note Cut
EDxx - Note Delay

Just deal with it and hack your way through the jungle of alternating speed commands

Why don't you continue to use lsdj on PC ?
If you need different kind f sound you can try LGPT which is similar from the interface.
Don't force you to learn new software if you have found te right one

LSDJ is still the ultimate tracker to me solely because of what you're saying, Alex. The ability to have each channel using a different value of ticks per line is the defining compositional technique for almost all of the an0va material

i am not really sure what you are trying to do but tempo and ticks per row are definitely separate in a tracker - it is not true they are the same thing. in impulse tracker tempo is Txx and speed is Axx. in fasttracker 2 and mod i believe they are both Fxx with xx below a certain value (0x20?) controlling speed and above it controlling tempo. you do have control of both there too though

however the final actual tempo is a product of both so i guess you are right that if you want to change ticks per row without changing the final tempo you will have to recalculate the internal tempo

actual tempo = "tempo" * (6 / "speed").

unless you really care about what your final bpm is i don't think it matters a whole amount in practise

i just whack a column full of A08, A04, A08, A04 which averages out at 6 and so the tempo is correct -

impulse tracker also has S6x which is kind of like SDx on all channels simultaenously - delays the whole pattern for x rows (but doesn't catch back up like SDx does). combined with temporary speed changes you can wonk things up a bit this way too

I second Deflemask! Ive used it extensively for noise composition. Rhythms can get insane once you start using commands to fuck with already wacky tick/swing values. I love the Genesis FM instrument editor, and it has the ability to compose for TurboGrafx16. Its a pretty underrated tracker IMHO.

Ahhh. See I thought you were looking for an alternative approach to using grooves to achieving unique rhythms. Have you used Deflemask before? You'll find it to be a very capable tracker for NES/GB/GENESIS/C64 and more