you'll go to paradise for this!!

Cool. I haven't tried using a string of Ex0 commands yet, hehe.

yeah! actually though, what i usually do is more along the lines of getting a quick decay that becomes slower; basically, the decay becomes a curve instead of a straight line.

like this (disclaimer: not an actual table i used):

CMD
EA0
E90
E60
--00
E50
E40
--00
E20
--00
--00
K00

combine with low-soundsing noise, maybe C4 shape with a C5 note, and you get a pretty snappy snare sound.

Oh yeah, using volume envelope stuff is a big deal, haha. Can make a kind of reverby snare by having a Loud attack with a quick decay that then fades into a very soft attack with a slow decay.
CMD
EA4
E46

Or something. That probably sounds like crap but you get the idea. Shrugs.

Yes, Sesska, it's a wave kick that fades into a bass (when it hits the P00 command) Play around with throwing higher TSP values all down the kick portion of it (before the P00) and see how that affects the sound. Can make all manner of wave toms and snares (when layered with noise) and stuff like that that fade into bass without it being too noticeable that your bass has disappeared for a moment.

Haha. It's a bit derailed but I /am/ at least trying to help you with your goal of having bass and convincing snare running at essentially the same time

for the sake of being complete, there is still the E-command to make noise-snares sound more convincing; it changes the volume, so you can make a nice envelope. makes one hell of a difference.

yes it is

but anyway sharing your experience is really cool and useful to me, thanks a lot!

I don't really see though how to use the above table, it's a wave kick right ?
and this layout make it ''fade'' into bass in order to make ''as if'' bass was running longer ?

now you do realise how thick I am with trackers subtelties ^^

got some spare/quiet time at lunch today, will try all your Jedi tricks on the proper gear and see where it brings the whole thing

LSDj wav kick/bass kick bass bass/kick tags for search engine ftw

TSP CMD
12  PEE
00  ---
00  ---
00  P00
01  ---
00  ---
...
That's the gist of what i like to do. There are other ways and variations... season to taste for your snaring purposes. Adjust/add/remove TSP and Pxx commands and stuff, ya know. I think you can put the TSP and P00 on the same row and it'll work, but I'm not sure.
One time I used the synth screen to make a growly bass, then manually drew triangles on the first few frames so the smooth kick would turn into a growly bass at the appropriate time.

Edit: Haha, this topic is a bit derailed, huh?

Bleh, I have nothing else to do, so I thought about a snare companion to that kick...
TSP CMD
24  PEE
12  ---
12  ---
00  P00
01  ---
00  ---
...

Or something idk... You get the idea... maybe it'll work, maybe not.

wow... would it be abusing to ask you for a quick table example of this ?

cheers mate, noted

yep, yep,

sorry guys, I should actually have started with this... will reccord siomething as soon as i get back home (looooong time that is )

I can second this. Adding kicks in the wave channel really do bring out the snares.

Let us know if you come across an lsdj track that has what you're looking for. also maybe post us an example of the sound you're looking to create

If push comes to shove you can always make everything quieter so your noise stands out more

Also I dont know if you know how to create a kick/bass, but basically I like to put a Pitchbend with a high TSP on the first few rows of a table and then throw a pitch-bend off and a quick TSP to reset the pitch to get the bass tone.

If you use WAV kicks, use one with a high tone that will layer them with your snare.  They'll work together to give a really full and thick tone. 

I've mainly been using A3 env with AE shape. In the table I have this for the middle column:
TSP      CMD
F0         OL-
F0         O-R
--           OLR

Then on row 8 I have a repeat command set to H03.

Sounds pretty authentic from my end, the shape can be edited to your taste but keep it at the 6th octave (ex C6) to get the best sound.

well to be honnest I first don't have the motivation to get all this gear... and overall

- I have a very little use of the GMB compared to my other instruments
- can't think about bringing a lot of gear along with me as I mostly play music outside, and game boy is the ''when I have 2mn free'' instrument

If I can't find what I want with this configuration (the ''whip snare'' is not really what I'm searching for) I'll go back on Wave fat-Kick+909snare+shitty bass with some additional  noise clap and PU1bass as I do now

I will have a try on this:

even if it's looks a bit ''how do I do that?'' to me

thanks anyway for all the cool advices!

You could always get another Game Boy, cart and a link cable. I realize this isn't the ideal solution, but it worked for me and allows you to have WAV bass and kits. Honestly, kits for tracks I wrote with WAV bass are pretty much all I've been using 2xLSDJ for, other than some extra little touches here and there.

SketchMan3: Some very nice, clever tricks you mention there - thanks!