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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Catskull YM2149 Synth. YM2149 or AY-3?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>unexpectedbowtie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>catskull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just connect via usb, it doesn&#039;t work over DIN AFAIK. I&#039;ve heard web midi on windows is a little tricky and doesn&#039;t work, one user reported having to use their android phone to do it. Not totally sure!</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, duh. I should have realised. I didn&#039;t realise it was both USB and DIN - I assumed it was one or the other. Thanks. I&#039;ll give it a bash!</p></blockquote></div><p>Noting for anybody else that comes across this: I suspect the issue with it not being detected originally was that I had both DIN and USB connected at once. If I connect up just via USB it detects fine. Either way, got it working now!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 21 Dec 2020 01:16:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>catskull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Just connect via usb, it doesn&#039;t work over DIN AFAIK. I&#039;ve heard web midi on windows is a little tricky and doesn&#039;t work, one user reported having to use their android phone to do it. Not totally sure!</p></blockquote></div><p>Oh, duh. I should have realised. I didn&#039;t realise it was both USB and DIN - I assumed it was one or the other. Thanks. I&#039;ll give it a bash!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 20 Dec 2020 16:08:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>catskull says:</i></b><p>Just connect via usb, it doesn&#039;t work over DIN AFAIK. I&#039;ve heard web midi on windows is a little tricky and doesn&#039;t work, one user reported having to use their android phone to do it. Not totally sure!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 23:45:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>catskull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Web editor is compatible, the new version added DIN but still has USB MIDI <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Ohhh that&#039;s awesome, thank you! What&#039;s the best config for that? I&#039;ve tried it connected via different interfaces but it isn&#039;t detected (using Chrome).</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 20:06:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>catskull says:</i></b><p>Web editor is compatible, the new version added DIN but still has USB MIDI <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 17:59:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>herr_prof says:</i></b><p>!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:03:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>catskull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry I missed this, but glad you got it figured out! I&#039;m a bad person to ask but if you were to blindfold me, I would not be able to tell the difference between the AY or the YM. I&#039;m sure purists out there that have spent a lot of time with the chips will tell me I&#039;m wrong, which is fine!</p><p>Also trash80 designed and coded the whole thing, not me! Thanks to him! SID synths aren&#039;t as interesting to me, just because the chips are hard to come by. I guess now that there are implementations of it in FPGA and microcontrollers, maybe that would be worth checking out? For YM2612, I guess genMDM gets pretty far there, especially with Jamatar&#039;s genaJam that I&#039;ll be releasing soon.</p></blockquote></div><p>Heya. I have another question... I presume the Web Editor isn&#039;t compatible with the new version, since it&#039;s MIDI DIN, rather than USB MIDI. Is that right?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 19 Dec 2020 04:17:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>martin_demsky says:</i></b><p>It is little bit offtopic, but this Jamatar performance is outstanding! I am now doing some things on Kurzweil Forte in fm synthesis mode, i mapped every parameter to sliders and knobs, power of fm is incredible.</p><p><a href="https://youtu.be/_nLA5kXui2M" target="_blank">https://youtu.be/_nLA5kXui2M</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 20 Nov 2020 13:49:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>catskull wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Sorry I missed this, but glad you got it figured out! I&#039;m a bad person to ask but if you were to blindfold me, I would not be able to tell the difference between the AY or the YM. I&#039;m sure purists out there that have spent a lot of time with the chips will tell me I&#039;m wrong, which is fine!</p><p>Also trash80 designed and coded the whole thing, not me! Thanks to him! SID synths aren&#039;t as interesting to me, just because the chips are hard to come by. I guess now that there are implementations of it in FPGA and microcontrollers, maybe that would be worth checking out? For YM2612, I guess genMDM gets pretty far there, especially with Jamatar&#039;s genaJam that I&#039;ll be releasing soon.</p></blockquote></div><p>I guess I could have just asked you directly hah. Thanks! I&#039;ll keep an eye out on the genaJam...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 11:04:26 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>catskull says:</i></b><p>Sorry I missed this, but glad you got it figured out! I&#039;m a bad person to ask but if you were to blindfold me, I would not be able to tell the difference between the AY or the YM. I&#039;m sure purists out there that have spent a lot of time with the chips will tell me I&#039;m wrong, which is fine!</p><p>Also trash80 designed and coded the whole thing, not me! Thanks to him! SID synths aren&#039;t as interesting to me, just because the chips are hard to come by. I guess now that there are implementations of it in FPGA and microcontrollers, maybe that would be worth checking out? For YM2612, I guess genMDM gets pretty far there, especially with Jamatar&#039;s genaJam that I&#039;ll be releasing soon.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Nov 2020 03:04:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>martin_demsky says:</i></b><p>Hey Bowtie, don&#039;t thank to me, i only googled <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /> BTW that device is interesting because it is small, if catskull develope something like this with SID chip, or with YM2612, i am in!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 19:07:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><p>Thanks! I went for the the YM in the end <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 10:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>martin_demsky says:</i></b><p>YM chip envelope have 5-bit volume, so it is not only 16 levels like in AY, but 32. Register accepts only 4-bit value, but maybe dynamics are that one bit better. Yamaha always make something better <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>I don&#039;t know if it is YM panned harder, on AY chip is output for every channel, i use ACB stereo out (a is left, c in both, b is right).</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Nov 2020 05:26:48 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>unexpectedbowtie says:</i></b><p>Thanks for the link! The sound comparison is useful. Looks like the YM would be the better option. The AY does sound a bit better on that particular comparison... but it seems like that&#039;s down more to mixing, as the YM seems panned harder? Not sure. Either way the difference seems minimal enough that I just need to make a call. Thank you!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 22:01:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>martin_demsky says:</i></b><p>Probably not, it is 99% same, in Vortex Tracker 2.5 when i change tune from AY to YM, there is not audible change. It is maybe matter of personal preference, if you love more Atari, then buy YM version <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p><a href="https://imgur.com/a/PezUP1E" target="_blank">https://imgur.com/a/PezUP1E</a></p><p>Edit: here is good article between differences<br /><a href="https://maidavale.org/blog/ay-ym-differences/" target="_blank">https://maidavale.org/blog/ay-ym-differences/</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Nov 2020 20:46:12 +0000</pubDate>
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