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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><p>oops should of read your post better <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/hmm.png" width="15" height="15" alt="hmm" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 22:23:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>kvee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d add a buffer amp still. Look into integrated amp ICs, these come in DIP8 packages and typically require only a few additional components. They typically include the required schematics inside the datasheet as well. As an example, look at TDA2822M (<a href="http://www.circuitdiagram.org/1w-mini-stereo-amplifier-tda2822m.html" target="_blank">example usage</a>).</p><p>When you&#039;ve got the NES open, I&#039;d also suggest replacing the 1A 7805 regulator with a 3A one if you&#039;re gonna do some additional mods (I added LEDs, couldn&#039;t resist...). Or better yet, some modern regulator that doesn&#039;t produce as much waste heat, but that&#039;d also require some reading into the schematics.</p><p>Oh, and I personally disable the CIC chip for stability reasons</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for that really appreciated I was thinking about a buffer amp. I am looking to any&nbsp; approvement I can make with the sound. Do you know if smoothing the ripple with a shunt regulator&nbsp; in the power supply would also help the sound?.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Feb 2021 13:11:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kvee says:</i></b><p>I&#039;d add a buffer amp still. Look into integrated amp ICs, these come in DIP8 packages and typically require only a few additional components. They typically include the required schematics inside the datasheet as well. As an example, look at TDA2822M (<a href="http://www.circuitdiagram.org/1w-mini-stereo-amplifier-tda2822m.html" target="_blank">example usage</a>).</p><p>When you&#039;ve got the NES open, I&#039;d also suggest replacing the 1A 7805 regulator with a 3A one if you&#039;re gonna do some additional mods (I added LEDs, couldn&#039;t resist...). Or better yet, some modern regulator that doesn&#039;t produce as much waste heat, but that&#039;d also require some reading into the schematics.</p><p>Oh, and I personally disable the CIC chip for stability reasons</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 23:20:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Doctor Octoroc says:</i></b><p>I&#039;ll be following with interest as well! I&#039;m always looking for new ways to push the envelope on the NES, it&#039;s by far my favorite sound in its generation.</p><p>Also, fwiw, this is the guide I more or less followed to do my mod. I didn&#039;t bother with amplification cause it&#039;s a good enough signal for my uses but it is really quite simple to do and m soldering skills are next to trash so if I can do it...</p><p><a href="http://www.retrofixes.com/2013/09/nes-stereo-modifications-with-easy.html" target="_blank">http://www.retrofixes.com/2013/09/nes-s &#133; -easy.html</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 18 Feb 2021 04:17:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><p>Will do</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kvee says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>captain wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kvee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know your goal is probably using the authentic hardware, but remember, we do live in the age of cycle-accurate emulators <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Just a semi retired geek with free time do do it the hard way. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Hey, if you ever DO decap the chip, let me know <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kvee says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>captain wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>kvee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> You could do a stereo mod + custom amp by just using the two analog signals directly from the output pins. I&#039;ve done that personally, the noise floor was about -60 dB.</p></blockquote></div><p> Thanks I already considering this as the best option.</p></blockquote></div><p>All right <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /><br />It&#039;s definitely a worthwhile mod, I had tons of fun even with just these two fixed channels...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:19:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>kvee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I know your goal is probably using the authentic hardware, but remember, we do live in the age of cycle-accurate emulators <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p></blockquote></div><p>Just a semi retired geek with free time do do it the hard way. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:18:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>kvee wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> You could do a stereo mod + custom amp by just using the two analog signals directly from the output pins. I&#039;ve done that personally, the noise floor was about -60 dB.</p></blockquote></div><p> Thanks I already considering this as the best option.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:15:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kvee says:</i></b><p>I know your goal is probably using the authentic hardware, but remember, we do live in the age of cycle-accurate emulators <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>kvee says:</i></b><p>The 2A0X outputs two analog channels, first is the mix of the two pulse channels and the second is the triangle / noise / DMC. After that, there is the external amplifier, which mixes these two (already analog) signals together. The formula in the link describes the INTERNAL DAC for each of the channels.<br />To answer your original question, no, there isn&#039;t any way to get to the digital representation without decapping the 2A0X. You could do a stereo mod + custom amp by just using the two analog signals directly from the output pins. I&#039;ve done that personally, the noise floor was about -60 dB.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 23:11:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><p>Thanks for that. Going to shoot that over to a friend who will understand it a bit more then I can.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 21:05:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Doctor Octoroc says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>captain wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Is there anyway to get the digital audio signal out of the APU before it is converted into analog? Or is it done internally&nbsp; in the chip with no access to the routing. Be nice to have the option to use a 3rd party DAC.</p><p>Thanks</p></blockquote></div><p>I don&#039;t know with absolute certainty but I&#039;ve researched every mod for the NES I could find and never came across this option. If it was possible, someone certainly would have done it by now, so I&#039;m assuming analog RCA out is the best that can be done with the stereo separation pro-sound mod.</p><p>Although, there is this:</p><p><a href="https://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/APU_Mixer" target="_blank">https://wiki.nesdev.com/w/index.php/APU_Mixer</a></p><p>Not a language I speak but looks like it might be possible?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 18:25:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>captain says:</i></b><p>Is there anyway to get the digital audio signal out of the APU before it is converted into analog? Or is it done internally&nbsp; in the chip with no access to the routing. Be nice to have the option to use a 3rd party DAC.</p><p>Thanks</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 17 Feb 2021 09:48:57 +0000</pubDate>
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