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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Jophish says:</i></b><p>last i heard everyone was hanging out in the irc, lot of buzz in there these days</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>firebrandboy wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rubedog wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>btw, they should make it so you can put html and css as the post instead of BBCode, its a little too limited with BBCode.</p></blockquote></div><p>some spicy xss.</p></blockquote></div><p>also hi firebrandboy i loved your songs for cake back in like 2009</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 23 Sep 2022 17:55:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Hide Your Tigers says:</i></b><p>Very active chiptune band here in Vegas @ Decayingtigers. Wish more people were still jamming we would love to have some chip friends come out to play shows here!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 22 Sep 2022 20:40:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>e.s.c. says:</i></b><p>I think real-life stuff has been a big factor for a lot of people too, like i&#039;ve hit some serious chronic pain issues the last 8 years, other people i know have had rough divorces, etc. just the kind of stuff that tends to happen as the scene as a group gets older. honestly, it&#039;s surprising there are so many people still active from the early 2000s when all we had was the broken old nanoloop forum, the lsdj mailing list (on yahoo groups, of all things), &amp; micromusic.org<br />everyone is sort of scattered now, i know i personally have to use 5 different social media apps to keep in touch with even just a relatively small group of people from the scene</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Aug 2022 15:40:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Imaginary says:</i></b><p>&quot;What happened?&quot; Mass exodus to other platforms that then collapsed under their own weight. Lots and lots of egos flying around attempting to devour each other. Lots of artists from the 8BC and then CM.O &quot;era&quot; moving on from the scene or quitting music altogether. The scene essentially working overtime to gatekeep the shit out of... itself? Dunno. Some pretty confusing bullshit going on in general. I&#039;ve posted up on a few discord servers to collect news and see what&#039;s good in the scene. We&#039;re at an ebb tide my friends. Just gotta wait it out.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 01 May 2022 01:15:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>optimuschad says:</i></b><p>I drifted away after 2015ish. Got my start in 2011 In the budding chipthrash scene but that kind of collapsed in on itself due to egos and drama. I moved on to using Logic Pro but just recently dusted off my gameboy. I will say I was shocked at how things changed and how fractured everything has gotten. I think it’s like everything else though. It comes in waves and right now we are waiting for the next. I plan on playing more shows than ever before and I’m hoping in my area I can build a budding scene but we shall see</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 30 Apr 2022 21:43:44 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Princedmorn says:</i></b><p>Michigan had a huge chiptune scene, but it vanished when the huge 8-bit(16-bit) indie game revival happened. I&#039;m guessing it was a counter-culture thing of &quot;Hey! I don&#039;t like those full orchestras performing live music on my games, so I&#039;m going to square waves and FM synths to make music.&quot; And suddenly when games like Shovel Knight and Hyper Light Drifter came out, the chiptunes group just kinda stopped. </p><p>I don&#039;t know if that is the true cause or reason to why, but it&#039;s kinda norm in the entertainment world, right? Just look at the biggest counter culture movement in history (punk) and see how when it started to become commercialized, it just stopped. </p><p>ALSO!!!!! Nothing against Shovel Knight and Hyper Light Drifter, I love these games and are actually a huge influence getting me into game development and working on creating my own retro style game (however I&#039;m using m68k assembly instead of modern language). </p><p>I&#039;m just upset that now, since I have the money and time to create chiptune music (or more categorically correct, 8/16 bit musical compositions), this site that was the &quot;go to&quot; collective of all people interested in retro music and informative when others ask for help, is no longer popular... i don&#039;t know /shrug</p><p>edit: [...] biggest counter culture movement in music history</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 28 Apr 2022 13:04:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>epichunt says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>e.s.c. wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>8bitcollective wasn&#039;t a thing until 2006 (or very early 2007), nonfinite &amp; kitsch both got into the gear game in late 2008, iirc (low-gain was the main US cart source through 2007)</p></blockquote></div><p>I stand corrected! I remember you from 8bc, environmental sound collapse! how have you been?<br />so what places were the stalwarts of the scene in the early 2000s then?</p><div class="quotebox"><cite>Sycamore Drive wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The last time I popped my head in, there were some pretty active Discord servers like Chiptune Cafe. </p><p>I&#039;d been around since about 2008, I still have fond memories of chipmusic, this forum, 8bc, the gigs, the awesome artists I got to hang out with etc but it was such a long time ago since everyone I knew was active that I fell away too. Hope you&#039;re all well, by the way!</p></blockquote></div><p>Sycamore! I remember you also. I think we were both starting out at the same time. How you doing, got any new music out?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 26 Apr 2022 21:41:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Sycamore Drive says:</i></b><p>The last time I popped my head in, there were some pretty active Discord servers like Chiptune Cafe. </p><p>I&#039;d been around since about 2008, I still have fond memories of chipmusic, this forum, 8bc, the gigs, the awesome artists I got to hang out with etc but it was such a long time ago since everyone I knew was active that I fell away too. Hope you&#039;re all well, by the way!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 06 Feb 2022 12:31:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>e.s.c. says:</i></b><p>8bitcollective wasn&#039;t a thing until 2006 (or very early 2007), nonfinite &amp; kitsch both got into the gear game in late 2008, iirc (low-gain was the main US cart source through 2007)</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 04 Feb 2022 02:59:03 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>epichunt says:</i></b><p>I&#039;m not the most qualified person to speak on this (I only discovered the scene in 2007) but I can paint you a rough timeline:</p><p>1980s/90s - actual demoscene / hardcore OG chiptuning. google or wiki demoscene and you&#039;ll get an idea of how chiptune/8bit music was actually born</p><p>begin of the 2000s chiptune began to establish crossover appeal. ease of use plus relatively famous artists (beck, Björk, crystal castles) led to (for example) the babycakes (a scene-kid/emo/??? clothing brand) endorsement, with artists like henry homesweet (a lovely chap whom I met in my hometown or Norwich once) playing huge raves. sabrepulse also had some pretty big internet fame, followed by colonopenbracket etc. there was definitely a lot of emo/scene-kid hype towards 2006-2010.</p><p>throughout the early 2000s 8bitcollective was active, 8bitpeoples put out some fantastic records with growing publicity, 8bitfest was putting on awesome lineups. nonfiniteelectronics and kitsch bent were enabling basically anyone to make chiptune who had 80 quid to spare. every week a new form of pro sound or backlighting was being discussed and perfected. I was very active on 8bc, the scene was basically my life 2007/2008, and it was a great time (for me at least) to be in the community. although a lot of the older heads were already complaining about how mainstream it was getting, that n00bs were asking the same questions, that all the music was just uhhn-tiss uhnn-tis. </p><p>so basically, the scene was born from a fringe-movement, and experienced a temporary boom in popularity due to mainstream adoption. 8bitcollective closing didn&#039;t help (man, I was fucking gutted when it went) and over the years more and more of the pillars crumbled. so we&#039;ve essentially come somewhat full circle to where the movement started. </p><p>I&#039;ll be honest though, personally I see a lasting impact from these years of &#039;boom&#039;. I was just recently visiting a mate at his uni department and saw two kids with &quot;I <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/heart.gif" width="15" height="15" alt="heart" /> my gameboy&quot; stickers, my mate introduced me to them as they&#039;re both getting into chip tunes and had some questions. didn&#039;t see anyone into 8bit when I did my degree 7 years ago, and when I was gigging 8bit stuff I never once met someone who knew what the hell I was doing. I feel the public consciousness has definitely absorbed chiptune, but the actual scene has reverted to being more nerd/hardcore, which I think is a good thing. I came to 8 bit via Mark Denardo and the Mark VII hiphop remixes, but I may not have stuck around had it not seemed so alive and accessible, I&#039;ll be honest.</p><p>So, to answer your question:<br />In my opinion, chiptune is as it always has been. It just went through a bit of a hype for a few years. <br />Anyway! This is all just the subjective view from a dude who played a lot of gigs in bumfuck norfolk when he was a teen. might look completely different to someone closer to the heart of the scene (New York? Central Europe?)</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 24 Jan 2022 18:58:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Bit wish says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Bit wish wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I got into the chiptune game in like 2012-13. Everyone used this website. Gradually over the next couple years everyone started using the chip tunes=win group on Facebook. By like 2017 this place was dead and everyone was on Facebook. Sometimes between 2018-2019 the owner/mod of chiptune=win group got into some sort of controversy and decided to just delete the group. I don’t have a lot of context bc Even though I saw stuff happening in real time, I just wasn’t paying much attention. </p><p>But it was something along the lines of “this guys doesn’t like to promote females or book them for mag fest”, “this guy doesn’t like women” type of stuff that I saw on Twitter and Facebook. Maybe some one else could fill in the blanks?</p></blockquote></div><p>Also the chip wins group isn’t deleted, but it’s archived.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 11 Jan 2022 16:53:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>firebrandboy says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Rubedog wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>btw, they should make it so you can put html and css as the post instead of BBCode, its a little too limited with BBCode.</p></blockquote></div><p>some spicy xss.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 10 Jan 2022 11:45:19 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>calmdownkidder says:</i></b><p>Been doing shows on twitch since May 2020 - <a href="https://www.youtube.com/calmdownkidder" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/calmdownkidder</a> has an archive of the shows as does <a href="https://www.twitch.tv/calmdownkidder/videos" target="_blank">https://www.twitch.tv/calmdownkidder/videos</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sun, 09 Jan 2022 14:38:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>e.s.c. says:</i></b><p>personally, i just got used to there not being new posts here. guess i should start checking again more often since i&#039;m still a staff member here (shrug)</p><p>but yeah, a lot of the scene has moved on to either using mostly non-chip gear or stopped making music entirely (including most of the staff here). and most of us who are left aren&#039;t releasing as much as we used to, i&#039;ve been sitting on a bunch of unreleased material for years &amp; i know i&#039;m not alone.<br />then of course the fact that live gigs aren&#039;t really a thing at this point can&#039;t help the situation either</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 06 Jan 2022 08:08:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>??? says:</i></b><p>A lot of people interested in chipmusic are also on twitter I think</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 05 Jan 2022 20:00:36 +0000</pubDate>
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