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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>iLKke says:</i></b><p>Just be a man and do the loop-fu manually <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /><br /><strong>OR</strong><br />Bug someone to write it for you!</p><br /><p><em>(yeah, I am being super helpful)</em></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2011 02:16:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: Is there an app which can make .xm's smaller ?]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>om says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>You can set loop points inside a pattern and save a ton of space. This is true of MODs too.</p></blockquote></div><p>yeah, that was the kind of thing I was thinking, but if this was taken to quite a high level some songs might become a lot less human readable; and it would be nice to have some code to do this automagically.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>akira^8GB says:</i></b><p>You can set loop points inside a pattern and save a ton of space. This is true of MODs too.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 14:29:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>4mat says:</i></b><p>I use SHRINKXM (dos tool) for this. (google it) It doesn&#039;t make the patterns smaller but removes excess, trims sample loops and so on.&nbsp; &nbsp;Because XM patterns are compressed (though not in a particularly optimal way) you can do some fixes yourself.&nbsp; &nbsp;For example if you don&#039;t need to store the instrument number against each note then take it out, same with FX that only need the command rather than parameters.&nbsp; You can usually clear a few bytes per pattern that way. The compression is described in a <a href="http://wotsit.org/list.asp?page=5&amp;fc=12&amp;search=&amp;al=" target="_blank">couple of docs</a> , which should help you out with this.</p><p>The other alternative is to use compressed samples such as MO3 files (XMs with mp3 samples) but only some players can use them.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 13:42:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>martin_demsky says:</i></b><p>I&#039;ve seen long-play one pattern songs with very slow BPM, with multiple replays of some passages (i forgot that command, sorry).<br />Probably from Jeroen Tel (WAVE/Five Musicians), check his small-size tracks in scene.org module archive.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:58:17 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>µB says:</i></b><p>Remember to delete unused instruments too. Those take up quite a few extra bytes.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 10:10:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>om says:</i></b><p>Thanks for all the helpful replies, boobiesqueezer managed to shave off an extra 500 bytes <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>The samples in the song I&#039;m working on should weigh in at less than 1k and the 5 pattern song is 21k.&nbsp; It&#039;s got some fairly intricate programming, but that still seems big.</p><p>Got a few big projects coming to a close, so might take a look at the weirdo .xm restructuring idea over the holidays.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 08:31:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>godinpants says:</i></b><p>There&#039;s an optimize button on the main panel.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 07:23:33 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>iLKke says:</i></b><p>Pattern data should be fairly small for modules, not sure about xm, but I expect it&#039;s fairly similar.<br />How big are all the samples you use in a song combined, versus the XM for the same song?<br />You can load your XM into fasttracker and save them from there, just to make sure MilkyTracker doesn&#039;t save a bunch of metadata on it&#039;s own.</p><p><strong>edit:</strong><br />OK I guess it makes perfect sense for 1kb compos <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 04:18:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>El Huesudo II says:</i></b><p>Try <a href="http://boobie.rotfl.at/" target="_blank">BoobieSqueezer</a> for reducing XM size. Though BoobieSqueezer works more in the instrument side of size cutting, though.</p><p>As for the miniature loop points... It&#039;s possible, but I&#039;m afraid that has to be done manually. Sorry...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 01:47:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>om says:</i></b><p>Writing chiptunes in milkytracker I can&#039;t help but feel the modules are unnecessarily large because of pattern data,</p><p>Surely it shouldn&#039;t be too hard to work out an algorithm to set hundreds of tiny loop points, making 3/4 of most songs redundant (if a bit human unfriendly).</p><p>is there something like this out there ?</p><p>did there used to be a &quot;pack&quot; button somewhere on soundtracker , or am I imagining that...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 31 Oct 2011 00:14:54 +0000</pubDate>
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