<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/5637/dmg-cleaning-and-modding-tips-needed/ Sun, 02 Sep 2012 18:37:38 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130629/#p130629 Lavar says:
QueenOfTulips wrote:

oh god, not acetone polish remover. that actually eats at the plastic. unless you're dyeing it and need to use acetone for that purpose, i would just stay the hell away from that. for plastic, i usually use distilled water, and for stuff like the PCB and contacts, rubbing alcohol.

I removed the battery contacts from the case and then put them in nail polish remover. I had read that it eats plastic away, so I made sure the case wasn't anywhere near the nail polish remover.

]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 18:37:38 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130629/#p130629 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130598/#p130598 QueenOfTulips says:

oh god, not acetone polish remover. that actually eats at the plastic. unless you're dyeing it and need to use acetone for that purpose, i would just stay the hell away from that. for plastic, i usually use distilled water, and for stuff like the PCB and contacts, rubbing alcohol.

]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 15:19:26 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130598/#p130598 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130576/#p130576 Lavar says:
Grymmtymm wrote:

vinegar works better than alcohol for removing the battery crud IMO.

but use rubbing alcohol to clean the pcbs off though

I found that out myself. I tried cleaning the battery contacts with nail polish remover, but they were still dirty. I got them clean with vinegar.

12ianma wrote:
Lavar wrote:

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Probably just going to install an inverted backlight and set LSDJ to inverted, and maybe when I'm a bit more experienced install a biversion chip.

If you are using the unit for lsdj there is no point to use a chip, the software can invert the color anyway. plus to be honest the inverted colors look great on the colored backlights, as the the black text and such which is now "white" becomes the color of the backlight.

What color backlight do you intend to put in the unit

I'm going to put a blue backlight in

]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 10:36:20 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130576/#p130576 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130549/#p130549 12ianma says:
Lavar wrote:
12ianma wrote:

Go with inverted backlight. it will bump up the resolution very much. The chip to complete a bivert is worth it as well, but I do not recommend that unless you are used to such small soldering.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Probably just going to install an inverted backlight and set LSDJ to inverted, and maybe when I'm a bit more experienced install a biversion chip.

If you are using the unit for lsdj there is no point to use a chip, the software can invert the color anyway. plus to be honest the inverted colors look great on the colored backlights, as the the black text and such which is now "white" becomes the color of the backlight.

What color backlight do you intend to put in the unit

]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 02:53:32 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130549/#p130549 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130534/#p130534 Grymmtymm says:

vinegar works better than alcohol for removing the battery crud IMO.

but use rubbing alcohol to clean the pcbs off though

]]> Sun, 02 Sep 2012 00:04:33 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130534/#p130534 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130522/#p130522 Lavar says:
12ianma wrote:

Go with inverted backlight. it will bump up the resolution very much. The chip to complete a bivert is worth it as well, but I do not recommend that unless you are used to such small soldering.

Thanks, I'll keep that in mind! Probably just going to install an inverted backlight and set LSDJ to inverted, and maybe when I'm a bit more experienced install a biversion chip.

]]> Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:32:36 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130522/#p130522 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130520/#p130520 12ianma says:

Go with inverted backlight. it will bump up the resolution very much. The chip to complete a bivert is worth it as well, but I do not recommend that unless you are used to such small soldering.

]]> Sat, 01 Sep 2012 21:04:56 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130520/#p130520 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130498/#p130498 Lavar says:

Sorry to bump a dead thread, but I just want to let anyone who's interested know that I finally took enough time to fix everything. Cleaned the case (it was kinda dirty, the smell vanished after a while by itself), fixed the vertical dead lines and cleaned up the battery contacts. Going to look back into doing some mods on this one, but I'll probably just backlight it and maybe prosound it. I also might put some coloured buttons in and change the screen cover (it came loose in the process).

]]> Sat, 01 Sep 2012 18:13:40 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/130498/#p130498 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/125828/#p125828 Dragoon says:

I always buy such dirty DMGs, because no one wants them and you get them for a very low price. Like every console i mod, i first disassemble all in every single part, all plastic parts go on a bath first, classic with soap and a good clean with a not more used toothbrush. After that, if there is any dirt or something, it gets a good clean with isopropanol. when there is any rubber or silicon rests, i get them away with something i got from my pc for cleaning thermal compound. its from artic and called ArctiClean.

]]> Fri, 10 Aug 2012 12:49:31 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/125828/#p125828 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84530/#p84530 pulseflux says:
Apeshit wrote:
pulseflux wrote:

Really? I didn't cut the plastic at all while installing my V3 backlights. I just got some LEDx3 kits from Kitsch, I'll give it a go installing them the same way and see how that works out.

Like I said, you only "need" to if you don't want to crush your wires. I've already done the tests, so I can save you the trouble and say it will crush the wires, or the LCD won't sit flush on the panel, or both.  There's no reason not to cut the plastic. It takes ten seconds and doesn't affect the stability.

Righto, I'll bear that in mind when installing my new ones.

]]> Sun, 18 Dec 2011 05:35:20 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84530/#p84530 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84525/#p84525 Apeshit says:
pulseflux wrote:

Really? I didn't cut the plastic at all while installing my V3 backlights. I just got some LEDx3 kits from Kitsch, I'll give it a go installing them the same way and see how that works out.

Like I said, you only "need" to if you don't want to crush your wires. I've already done the tests, so I can save you the trouble and say it will crush the wires, or the LCD won't sit flush on the panel, or both.  There's no reason not to cut the plastic. It takes ten seconds and doesn't affect the stability.

]]> Sun, 18 Dec 2011 02:42:11 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84525/#p84525 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84504/#p84504 Lavar says:
Apeshit wrote:
Lavar wrote:

Because according to nonfinite, you don't have to cut any pieces to install the backlight, it fits perfectly.

I can safely say that's not the case because I had a DMG with one of those panels come in on a repair. It's not a matter of the panel not fitting, it's a matter of whether or not you want to crush your wires. There's no space between the LCD and the plastic housing for the wires to go unless you cut the plastic. 

The LEDx3 panels have the polarized film and the resistor built in, which eliminates two steps of the installation. They were designed to be beginner friendly.

And here's my opinion on some of the other mods:

- Replace capacitor using the Kitsch-Bent kit

For a first mod, this isn't necessary. It's a great kit, but Nintendo used good capacitors and you might not notice any change in performance after changing them. You'll probably end up ripping out traces if you attempt it without any soldering experience.

- Pro Sound mod (either 1/8" or RCA, I don't know which is better, any suggestions?)

Neither is better, it's a matter of preference. RCA is more difficult to install

- Bivert/invert (I don't know the difference, invert seems easier)

From left to right: Normal, inverted, biverted
http://cache0.bigcartel.com/product_ima … BGuide.jpg

Seems like you may be taking on too much for a first project. Generally ambitious first projects either will have crushed wires, won't close properly, cold solder joints, or just won't work.  My best advice is to take it slow, good luck!

Thanks for the tips! I'm probably going to drop the LED lights behind the buttons, the batt_low light and the biverting. For the electronics I'm going to do it step by step, starting with the hardest (resistors) and end with the easiest (backlight). Now, one questions remains: LEDx3 or V³ Triple LED?

]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 21:14:47 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84504/#p84504 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84503/#p84503 pulseflux says:

Really? I didn't cut the plastic at all while installing my V3 backlights. I just got some LEDx3 kits from Kitsch, I'll give it a go installing them the same way and see how that works out.

]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 20:48:09 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84503/#p84503 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84500/#p84500 Apeshit says:
pulseflux wrote:

So I don't have to cut the plastic for the LEDx3 kit?

No, I'm saying you need to cut it for any backlight with that style of mounting.

]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:37:52 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84500/#p84500 <![CDATA[Re: DMG cleaning and modding tips needed]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84499/#p84499 pulseflux says:
Apeshit wrote:
Lavar wrote:

Because according to nonfinite, you don't have to cut any pieces to install the backlight, it fits perfectly.

I can safely say that's not the case because I had a DMG with one of those panels come in on a repair. It's not a matter of the panel not fitting, it's a matter of whether or not you want to crush your wires. There's no space between the LCD and the plastic housing for the wires to go unless you cut the plastic. 

The LEDx3 panels have the polarized film and the resistor built in, which eliminates two steps of the installation. They were designed to be beginner friendly.

So I don't have to cut the plastic for the LEDx3 kit?

]]> Sat, 17 Dec 2011 19:17:21 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/84499/#p84499