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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>problem is if we open source everything we can&#039;t send &quot;fuckingz to lamers&quot; anymore.&nbsp; what do we fill the scrolltexts with?</p><p>(A JOKE)</p></blockquote></div><p>Haha, was just about to ask if this was the end of &quot;fuck da rippaz&quot;.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>iLKke says:</i></b><p>Linde has a point there. <br />Having the skills to peek into machine code or SID registers is considered a manifest of one&#039;s commitment, and is negligible compared to the effort needed to master a platform. Also it&#039;s much more fun <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/big_smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="big_smile" /></p><p>Damn you, open source!!! Y U RUIN EVERYTHING?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 17 May 2012 00:23:43 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>4mat says:</i></b><p>problem is if we open source everything we can&#039;t send &quot;fuckingz to lamers&quot; anymore.&nbsp; what do we fill the scrolltexts with?</p><p>(A JOKE)</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 11:26:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boomlinde says:</i></b><p>In my experience, I agree with Akira that at least C64 people open whatever they want opened <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" />. For some purposes (figuring out a specific effect/trick) a disassembly is only slightly less readable than a source file. Reverse engineering is simply assumed more often than not, but (rightfully) proud people will happily explain their tricks to you in forums/diskmags/person.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 10:51:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>xylo says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> demos were not generally distributed with source code for a long time, maybe in the Spirit Of Competition.</p></blockquote></div><p>As said before, if you were IN the demoscene, you COULD get access to loads if not most of the stuff.</p></blockquote></div><p>Yes, but commercially releasing code on Github and stuff is different from just asking on a demoparty. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:10:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>xylo says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>The Silph Scope wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Xylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Music is actually only a small part of demoscene, so to say demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning would be a bit exaggerating.</p></blockquote></div><p>You know, software can be open too <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />fsf.org<br />opensource.org</p></blockquote></div><p>He&#039;s stating that Demoscene was &#039;open&#039; since it&#039;s beginning because tracked songs are open source anyway. It&#039;s wrong to state &#039;Demoscene&#039; was open source because tracked songs are. Music is only a small part of the demoscene.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 16 May 2012 09:09:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>akira^8GB says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p> demos were not generally distributed with source code for a long time, maybe in the Spirit Of Competition.</p></blockquote></div><p>As said before, if you were IN the demoscene, you COULD get access to loads if not most of the stuff.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 23:28:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ant1 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>The Silph Scope wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Xylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Music is actually only a small part of demoscene, so to say demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning would be a bit exaggerating.</p></blockquote></div><p>You know, software can be open too <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />fsf.org<br />opensource.org</p></blockquote></div><p>no one is deny that software CAN be open, but demos were not generally distributed with source code for a long time, maybe in the Spirit Of Competition. also many demos and even music disks the music was packed inside the demo and it was not trivial to get it out. i can&#039;t say the demoscene is a supreme example of open source culture in anyway, but there are enough helpful forum posts and etc - it&#039;s not like no one wants you to learn at all</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 22:32:20 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>The Silph Scope says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Xylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>ryba wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning, because If there was e.g. some track realised, It was realised in Tracker file format (not audio, mp3), so anyone have to open it in tracker to play it, thus anyone have it&#039;s source. I think.</p><p>to iLKke: I want new gameboy DMG games! is there anyone working on something?</p></blockquote></div><p>Music is actually only a small part of demoscene, so to say demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning would be a bit exaggerating.</p></blockquote></div><p>You know, software can be open too <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />fsf.org<br />opensource.org</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 22:28:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>xylo says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ryba wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning, because If there was e.g. some track realised, It was realised in Tracker file format (not audio, mp3), so anyone have to open it in tracker to play it, thus anyone have it&#039;s source. I think.</p><p>to iLKke: I want new gameboy DMG games! is there anyone working on something?</p></blockquote></div><p>Music is actually only a small part of demoscene, so to say demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning would be a bit exaggerating.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 21:41:00 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ryba says:</i></b><p>Demoscene was open since it&#039;s beginning, because If there was e.g. some track realised, It was realised in Tracker file format (not audio, mp3), so anyone have to open it in tracker to play it, thus anyone have it&#039;s source. I think.</p><p>to iLKke: I want new gameboy DMG games! is there anyone working on something?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 12:27:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ilkae says:</i></b><p>It seems like a relatively new thing, but also a continuation of old attitudes regarding sharing knowledge. Like others have said, the demoscene was always friendly towards knowledge exchange - but it was mostly done via demoparties or private irc /msg chats, etc.. As demoparties have waned in size/frequency, and the IRC community has become less vibrant, it doesn&#039;t surprise me to see demogroups open-sourcing their code in the aims of contributing to a healthy community.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 15 May 2012 01:10:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>iLKke says:</i></b><p>I&#039;d love to push some gb pixels, if there&#039;s anyone making a demo</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 23:40:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ultramega says:</i></b><p>anyone here into the GB demoscene? <a href="http://gameboy.modermodemet.se/" target="_blank">http://gameboy.modermodemet.se/</a> there&#039;s a chunk of demos on that site with source included...</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 16:09:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>xero says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Xylo wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>akira^8GB wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I always thought the scene was pretty open even though it doesn&#039;t look like from outside. Demoparties were and are the main places to learn how stuff is done by the masters themselves. You&#039;d be surprised of how much you can learn at one.</p><p>Also, for these guys, back then, with a monitor cartridge, any demo was &quot;open&quot; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /><br />I guess the only difference now is that with the internet anyone can get the source, not just demoscene people.</p></blockquote></div><p>Plus Git(hub) is a very awesome way to share projects, source and code in a branche/fork kind of way which makes the structure a lot more comprehensible. ^^</p></blockquote></div><p>agree. GIT is amazing ;D<br />i was gonna say <a href="http://pouet.net/" target="_blank">pouet</a> has been around for a while.<br />lots of my friends just give their code away to anyone who wants it after the party.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 14 May 2012 13:36:37 +0000</pubDate>
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