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			<title><![CDATA[Re: C64 Hardware Essentials]]></title>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boomlinde says:</i></b><p>If you are going to use an emulator for tracking I might as well spam these some more. They come fully assembled, in kits or as bare PCBs: <a href="http://devsound.se/products-page/sbu" target="_blank">http://devsound.se/products-page/sbu</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 06:24:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>breakphase says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Je Mappelle wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i suggest a mouse if you plan to use mssiah, not really sure if this applies for other software above</p></blockquote></div><p>Alernatively an atari 2600 joy stick is good. They are more available i think.</p><p>Mssiah is ok, I just like being able to sync it with other devices with midi clock signals. So you could write a gameboy/c64/renoise song. If you just hit play at the same time they will not stay in sync. Just make sure to get a storage device.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 05:26:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>thursdaycustoms says:</i></b><p>All you need is a Cynthcart cartridge. I love it to death!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 05:02:53 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ant1 says:</i></b><p>someone correct me if im wrong i dont think there is any trackers that come on cartridges. you need a DISCK DRIVE or DISC DRIVE EMULATOR kind of thing such as the 1541u</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 04:36:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>basspuddle says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Slumpy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, I have a tendency to update my threads if nobody responds and I find the answers I need just in case somebody else stumbles upon this thread with the same question.</p></blockquote></div><p>Thanks for that <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p><p>Anyway, do I need a midi interface, or can I just run a tracker program from a cartridge?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 28 Jul 2012 03:57:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ultramega says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Slumpy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Well, I have a tendency to update my threads if nobody responds and I find the answers I need just in case somebody else stumbles upon this thread with the same question</p></blockquote></div><p>admirable</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 13:36:41 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Je Mappelle says:</i></b><p>i suggest a mouse if you plan to use mssiah, not really sure if this applies for other software above</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:43:37 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Lazerbeat says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>GoatTracker with a hardSID card is also a very good option.</p></blockquote></div><p> This, a hardsid UNO will work fine with gt and it will be considerably easier to get running. They are only about 150 euro.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 11:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Jellica says:</i></b><p>I&#039;d seriously advise trying out some C64 trackers in an emulator or using goattracker on the PC (which also has a nice tutorial) before spunking out on a load of hardware. The SID is a pretty crazy bitch to control and the software much less user friendly when compared to Game Boy/LSDJ.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 10:06:29 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>4mat says:</i></b><p>As an aside, to get the best out of the sid chip use trackers. A decent modern tracker such as SDI, JCH or John Player have sound drivers miles ahead of Mssiah.&nbsp; Just listen to the demos.&nbsp; I guess the latter is good if you want to hook a midi device up to it (god knows why) , but you probably won&#039;t get the same quality of instruments that a modern tracker provides.&nbsp; &nbsp;GoatTracker with a hardSID card is also a very good option.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 09:33:15 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Comptroller says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Slumpy wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>3. A means of transferring files between the C64 and your Computer<br />&nbsp; -There are a few ways in which this can be done. The most convenient of which are really expensive or impossible to find. The most cost effective route is to buy a C64 floppy drive and to splice your own cord. Note: A normal floppy drive will not work. Also, I posted the link to make the cord in the post above so I won&#039;t repeat it here.<br />&nbsp; -Link regarding the other transfer methods: <a href="http://www.c64.com/faq.php#2.6" target="_blank">http://www.c64.com/faq.php#2.6</a></p></blockquote></div><p>I note this link mentions X1541 cables but only the parallel port versions. Thought I should mention, there&#039;s also the XU1541 which is USB based: <a href="http://www.commodore16.com/index.php/component/content/article/70-upgrades-a-mods/335-xu1541.html" target="_blank">http://www.commodore16.com/index.php/co &#133; u1541.html</a> Probably a better option given parallel ports are pretty rare these days. Also it&#039;s fairly cheap and I&#039;ve found it to be very reliable. Hope that helps!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 06:50:01 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Slumpy says:</i></b><p>Well, I have a tendency to update my threads if nobody responds and I find the answers I need just in case somebody else stumbles upon this thread with the same question.</p><p>If you are looking to use a C64 as a synthesizer rather than a dedicated workstation like myself you will need 3 main things:</p><p>1. A Commodore 64<br />&nbsp; -There are two main versions that use different SID chips. The 6581 which runs off a 12v supply in the original C64 &#039;breadbox&#039; designs and the 8580 which runs off a 9v supply and found in the C64c redesign. The sound chips are said to sound warmer/crisper respectively; which is not the same as better or worse, just different.</p><p>2. A midi interface<br />&nbsp; -There are various places that use to sell dedicated C64 midi interfaces, but it seems like the shops have dried out. A good alternative I found is one that uses arduino found at this site: <br /><a href="http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2010/03/how-to-make-commodore-64-midi-interface.html" target="_blank">http://little-scale.blogspot.com/2010/0 &#133; rface.html</a><br />Seems relatively simple, but i&#039;m in the process of building an arduinoboy so I know this stuff is easier said than done!</p><p>3. A means of transferring files between the C64 and your Computer<br />&nbsp; -There are a few ways in which this can be done. The most convenient of which are really expensive or impossible to find. The most cost effective route is to buy a C64 floppy drive and to splice your own cord. Note: A normal floppy drive will not work. Also, I posted the link to make the cord in the post above so I won&#039;t repeat it here.<br />&nbsp; -Link regarding the other transfer methods: <a href="http://www.c64.com/faq.php#2.6" target="_blank">http://www.c64.com/faq.php#2.6</a></p><p>Overall, this is a lot cheaper than buying a MSSIAH cart, but again, buying a MSSIAH cart is much more practical if you want to use your C64 as a dedicated workstation.</p><p>To answer my above questions:<br />The C64 has an TV analog out, so it would be harder to connect it to a monitor (you have to buy an adapter which is pretty cheap) or you can connect it straight into a TV.<br />The mouse would be useful for a lot of programs (mainly MSSIAH cart), but you can buy an adapter online.<br />Adapter Info: <a href="http://sensi.org/~svo/" target="_blank">http://sensi.org/~svo/</a>[m]ouse/<br />Note: at the time of writing this adapters cost about ~$30</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 31 May 2012 04:28:57 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Slumpy says:</i></b><p>Hey guys, i&#039;ve been getting into chiptunes a lot ever since I got this DMG and EMS cart. Anyways, I was looking around my local Craigslist and saw a C64 listed for $25 and now I feel this overpowering urge to buy it and abuse the hell out of that SID chip. My question to you guys is a very basic one: what are the essential hardware peripherals that i&#039;ll need to get in order to start making music with this thing right away?&nbsp; There&#039;s loads and loads of information on various mods and programs, but it&#039;s the stuff that is so simple and obvious that I can&#039;t find any info on!</p><p>From my research I need a floppy drive to load programs and a C64 to parallel port cable, is that all the essentials? Can I connect the C64 to any TV using RCA or S-video? Is that mouse thing helpful or just unnecessary because it looks like C64 runs on a &quot;MS-DOS&quot; like interface.</p><p>What do you guys think of this cable? <a href="http://sta.c64.org/xe1541.html" target="_blank">http://sta.c64.org/xe1541.html</a></p><p>Anyways, thanks for the help!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 30 May 2012 23:10:24 +0000</pubDate>
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