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			<title><![CDATA[Re: lets talk best data compression for the nets]]></title>
			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111253/#p111253</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boomlinde says:</i></b><p>Joint stereo club!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: lets talk best data compression for the nets]]></title>
			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111242/#p111242</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>minusbaby says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>boomlinde wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>44 kHz CBR 192 kbps LAME is usually good for me</p></blockquote></div><p><a class="postimg" href="http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/202/c/2/Audiograbber_dock_icon_by_8bf.png" title="http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/202/c/2/Audiograbber_dock_icon_by_8bf.png" id="forum_image_13655635"><img src="http://fc00.deviantart.net/fs48/f/2009/202/c/2/Audiograbber_dock_icon_by_8bf.png" /></a></p><p>Same here; with joint stereo just for the Hell of it.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:52:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: lets talk best data compression for the nets]]></title>
			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111239/#p111239</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>sugar sk*-*lls says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>4mat wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>With chipmusic if you have interpolation switched off you do need a pretty high kps to avoid a lot of compression artifacts, probably more so than with traditional music. (rather ironic) Personally when using mp3 I go for CBR and 320kps.&nbsp; &nbsp;An alternative free codec is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CELT" target="_blank">CELT</a>, it&#039;s not well supported yet but offers pretty good playback at low ratios.</p></blockquote></div><p>ahh cool.....and werd. i know nothing of interpolation, dithering and such. yeah the nature of timbres in chip is a tricky beast.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:33:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ant1 says:</i></b><p>indeed!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 15:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111233/#p111233</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>i woudl share OGGS but bandcamp prefers FLACS and FLACS are what i use personally for my music collection so that is nice for me</p><p>maybe FLACS is overkill for some thing like Chip Music.org though</p></blockquote></div><p>Bandcamp prefers a lossless format because the user has the option to choose a compressed format to download. Transcoding from one lossy format to another potentially degrades the audio quality, so they prefer a lossless source to derive the lossy formats from.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 14:55:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111223/#p111223</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>sergeeo says:</i></b><p>aac anyone?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 13:19:28 +0000</pubDate>
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			<title><![CDATA[Re: lets talk best data compression for the nets]]></title>
			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111220/#p111220</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boomlinde says:</i></b><p><a class="postimg" href="http://i.imgur.com/dlKbl.png" title="http://i.imgur.com/dlKbl.png" id="forum_image_56604552"><img src="http://i.imgur.com/dlKbl.png" /></a></p><p>44 kHz CBR 192 kbps LAME is usually good for me, but I can see why it might not cut it for a perfectionist in cases like the one 4mat describes. If you want transparency, especially for raw-rendered chipmusic, you&#039;d better go lossless.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:56:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111219/#p111219</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>4mat says:</i></b><p>With chipmusic if you have interpolation switched off you do need a pretty high kps to avoid a lot of compression artifacts, probably more so than with traditional music. (rather ironic) Personally when using mp3 I go for CBR and 320kps.&nbsp; &nbsp;An alternative free codec is <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/CELT" target="_blank">CELT</a>, it&#039;s not well supported yet but offers pretty good playback at low ratios.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 11:37:16 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111218/#p111218</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ant1 says:</i></b><p>i woudl share OGGS but bandcamp prefers FLACS and FLACS are what i use personally for my music collection so that is nice for me</p><p>maybe FLACS is overkill for some thing like Chip Music.org though</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 10:36:59 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111212/#p111212</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nitro2k01 says:</i></b><p>48/24 and 96/24 make sense for storing an original recording and processing audio, if you want to avoid artefacts or so. For distributing audio for listening, there&#039;s really no reason to go above 16-bit (if your format can use bits; the concept of bits typically doesn&#039;t exist for lossy formats), or 44.1 kHz/48 kHz.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:40:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>µB says:</i></b><p>Maybe related: I&#039;ve made a comparison of low-kbps mp3 encoders <a href="http://chipmusic.org/forums/post/68234/#p68234" target="_blank">here</a>. Note that for high kbps LAME is pretty good, and what I usually use for mp3 encoding. The latest Ogg/Vorbis is superior in quality/size ratio, so I use that for encoding CDs and stuff.</p><p>I can see no reason not to use VBR unless LAME&#039;s algortihm obviously messes up. But that happened to me only once or twice, ever.</p><p>Also:<br /></p><div class="quotebox"><cite>nordloef wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Don&#039;t use 48Khz unless you&#039;re working directly to video.</p></blockquote></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 09:32:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ioflow says:</i></b><p>--</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 08:56:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111197/#p111197</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>nordloef says:</i></b><p>Don&#039;t use 48Khz unless you&#039;re working directly to video.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 06:33:24 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111195/#p111195</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Victory Road says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>sugar sk*-*lls wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Then its a bit of a mystery. I havent found a combination via mp3 i like(the most universal for my intents); a 46mb conversion gets squashed to a 4-6mb even at the highest/best quality. Thusly, when a track reaches the nets it&#039;s acquired a murky film that sounds a bit thin and flat.</p></blockquote></div><p>a lot of streaming sites like soundcloud transcode your file to 128kbps for streaming purposes, so it could just be that.<br />personally i&#039;d never use anything lower than 320kbps* for mp3&#039;s if possible. the lossy nature of the format means you will lose at least some information in the conversion but the audible difference between 320kbps mp3 and wav is pretty miniscule.</p><p>*although i am kinda partial to the smokey character of 96kbps! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 05:21:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<link>https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/111186/#p111186</link>
			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boaconstructor says:</i></b><p>320kbps is considered the standard when it comes to the digital distribution of profesh mp3s.. If you ever cared to have your music dropped live in a DJ set, you would do this.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Thu, 07 Jun 2012 04:41:41 +0000</pubDate>
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