Found a great tutorial on focusing on the noise channel - he shows an example of how the sweep command can be used in the noise channel.

Good stuff!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wD7omqjHXmI&t=3s

sweep kicks?

Very much so, and since S command only works in Pu1 and not in Pu2 and it's choppier I think I've only ever used it for the noise channel, it's good for glitchiness, but not much else as far as I can tell.

If you set the S command and the P command to do similar pitch bends, you'll notice that the S command has a choppiness to it, and the P command is a nice SMOOTH pitch bend.

hmmm... well I guess that just ensures that LSDJ will always have some sort of a learning curve to keep me interested. I still know more now than I did at the start of this thread. Thanks!

There's a legitimate source of confusion here, though. Even if you know in general what sweep and shape are/do, it may be unclear what the S command does, exactly. There are three ways it could work. It could set an absolute value, set a value relative to the instrument's value, or set a value relative to the value after the last command was executed. And there's also another factor, whether a relative value is applied as an 8 bit add, or to each nibble individually.

This can vary between whether the command is used for the PU1 or the noise channel. This can vary depending on whether the command is used in a table or a phrase. The behavior can vary between versions. (These differences used to be a notorious way old songs could break. I've probably used LSDj longer than anyone in this thread, and I generally have to rediscover the exact behavior everytime I want to use the S command. This is just an idiosyncrasy of LSDj that you have to get used to.

I'm still reading the manual.... the S command is so much more clear now. And I definitely didn't know that it affected the kit instruments differently.
I'm still missing some details though... The manual says "...the first digit affects pitch"... and then later describes (in the "pitch bend" section) that P02 bends up pitch with a speed of 2, and PFE bends down pitch with a speed of 2.

But if I set up a default pulse in PU1, using D4, and the sweep set to FE, it doesn't seem to be bending anywhere. It's just a sustained pulse, no different from FF

^ so you know how to use the commands now?

Thanks! Though in my defense, I read the manual in 2010 and I totally don't remember detailed info on the sweep commands.

Course.... at that time I was probably just looking for the section that answered "HOW DO I MAKE A SWEET CHIPTUNE"?

http://www.quickmeme.com/meme/3pukdg/

Yeah, me and my associate, Mr. The sky is black not blue, will be here to assist you. Because apparently we're experts.

Also when using commands if you double tap a on a command it tells you what the command does