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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Shiru says:</i></b><p>1 minute was a typical duration of a song in NES games, and it wasn&#039;t much longer for Genesis and SNES games either. As they had to loop over and over again for hours, there was not much repetition within that minute.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:31:06 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>xylo says:</i></b><p>Short songs are awesome. And most songs over the 2 minute mark usually have a lot of repetitive parts to form more of an arrangement any way. </p><p>There are a lot of cool short modules and as ant1 says, look up modland. Strolling around that FTP is a nice way to spend your evening anyway.</p><p><a href="http://youtu.be/0_LPLmFq8ek" target="_blank">http://youtu.be/0_LPLmFq8ek</a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 18 Jul 2012 09:15:05 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>labrie says:</i></b><p>soleviio no worries my friend, i respect your knowledge of this stuff; i&#039;m enjoying your tune flying on a sunbeam quite a lot right now. a sub 1 minute mix tape? brilliance. great idea</p><p>sketchman3, that&#039;s golden stuff. i suppose i&#039;ve been limiting my melodies to fit within one milkytracker loop, and there&#039;s only so many ways you can permutate it before it gets old</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Soleviio says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>SketchMan3 wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Soleviio wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think length is entirely dependent upon the musical material, to be honest. If you have a theme that keeps developing and developing, hell, let it develop as much as you want it to. If it&#039;s not developing much but the instrumentation is keeping things interesting, just cut it short if it gets repetitive--if not, let it grow. Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m learning this the hard way. I set out to do a 3 minute tune, but end up fully developing the theme by the 1:45 mark, more often then not. Sometimes I&#039;ll get lucky.</p><p>However, I wonder if sometimes it&#039;s not really a case of the song naturally developing as a short tune, but just me not knowing how to let the listener digest an idea before moving on to another one.</p></blockquote></div><p><a class="postimg" href="http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iaf2s7bp1qev756.jpg" title="http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iaf2s7bp1qev756.jpg" id="forum_image_19040751"><img src="http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_m6iaf2s7bp1qev756.jpg" /></a></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:24:13 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>SketchMan3 says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Soleviio wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think length is entirely dependent upon the musical material, to be honest. If you have a theme that keeps developing and developing, hell, let it develop as much as you want it to. If it&#039;s not developing much but the instrumentation is keeping things interesting, just cut it short if it gets repetitive--if not, let it grow. Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p></blockquote></div><p>I&#039;m learning this the hard way. I set out to do a 3 minute tune, but end up fully developing the theme by the 1:45 mark, more often then not. Sometimes I&#039;ll get lucky. </p><p>However, I wonder if sometimes it&#039;s not really a case of the song naturally developing as a short tune, but just me not knowing how to let the listener digest an idea before moving on to another one.</p><p>That&#039;s what happens when most of your composing is with short video game loops, I guess.</p><p>Edit: As far as actual examples go, this is one of my favorites:<br /><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/L4c4prrKXWs" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 02:06:54 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Soleviio says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>labrie wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>Soleviio wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p></blockquote></div><p>i agree, i was seeking tunes that capture what the shortened length implies: a strong melody with simple instrumentation. just one idea. perhaps i&#039;ve spent too much time on my super nintendo recently, and this has fallen a bit out of style. i&#039;ve tried my hand at it, it&#039;s good fun (maybe even risen into the lower realms of mediocrity) (criticism appreciated if anyone has thirty seconds to kill), so i was hoping others would know what else is kicking around</p><p>i&#039;m impressed with the selection this board has provided. word</p></blockquote></div><p>nah, I definitely caught what you meant. Sorry if my post came off as abrasive, haha. It would be interesting, though, if maybe the community put together a compilation of tracks that don&#039;t pass a certain limit (say 1:00 or 1:30). Would certainly be a melting pot of style! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:58:45 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Auxcide says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Frostbyte wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Couldn&#039;t say it better myself.</p><p>But honestly, it is fun to challenge yourself too by trying to smash as much good music into 1:00 that you can</p></blockquote></div><p>I like smashing as much good music as I can into 3, 4, or 5 minutes <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>But I have done a lot of songs recently around 2 minutes. Just because I believe that&#039;s the direction the song seems to take.</p><p>I think a good album has a mix of the two.. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:40:46 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>labrie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Soleviio wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p></blockquote></div><p>i agree, i was seeking tunes that capture what the shortened length implies: a strong melody with simple instrumentation. just one idea. perhaps i&#039;ve spent too much time on my super nintendo recently, and this has fallen a bit out of style. i&#039;ve tried my hand at it, it&#039;s good fun (maybe even risen into the lower realms of mediocrity) (criticism appreciated if anyone has thirty seconds to kill), so i was hoping others would know what else is kicking around</p><p>i&#039;m impressed with the selection this board has provided. word</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:38:36 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Frostbyte says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Soleviio wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I think length is entirely dependent upon the musical material, to be honest. If you have a theme that keeps developing and developing, hell, let it develop as much as you want it to. If it&#039;s not developing much but the instrumentation is keeping things interesting, just cut it short if it gets repetitive--if not, let it grow. Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p></blockquote></div><p>Couldn&#039;t say it better myself.</p><p>But honestly, it is fun to challenge yourself too by trying to smash as much good music into 1:00 that you can</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:21:35 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Soleviio says:</i></b><p>I think length is entirely dependent upon the musical material, to be honest. If you have a theme that keeps developing and developing, hell, let it develop as much as you want it to. If it&#039;s not developing much but the instrumentation is keeping things interesting, just cut it short if it gets repetitive--if not, let it grow. Length should be a byproduct of musical fluidity and arrangement, not the other way around.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 01:19:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Je Mappelle says:</i></b><p>Most of my favourite Radix songs are 1 - 2 minutes long. Here you go.</p><div class="spoilerbox" id="spoiler2175676"><h3 onclick="$('#spoilerbox2175676').css('display','block');$('#spoiler2175676').css('display','none')">&#8250; Show Spoiler</h3></div><div class="spoilerbox" id="spoilerbox2175676" style="display:none"><h3 onclick="$('#spoilerbox2175676').css('display','none');$('#spoiler2175676').css('display','block')">&#8249; Hide Spoiler</h3><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/kyNi5kyIlvg" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p></div><p>Also whilst not directly related, a lot of good VGM is just loops of short songs. </p><div class="spoilerbox" id="spoiler3611655"><h3 onclick="$('#spoilerbox3611655').css('display','block');$('#spoiler3611655').css('display','none')">&#8250; Show Spoiler</h3></div><div class="spoilerbox" id="spoilerbox3611655" style="display:none"><h3 onclick="$('#spoilerbox3611655').css('display','none');$('#spoiler3611655').css('display','block')">&#8249; Hide Spoiler</h3><p><div class="embed_video"><iframe width="560" height="340" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/jzfQhV3G_MU" frameborder="0" webkitallowfullscreen mozallowfullscreen allowfullscreen></iframe></div></p></div>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:48:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Victory Road says:</i></b><p>i listen to a lot of pop punk so most of my songs barely make 2 minutes now. i feel like shorter songs lend themselves to higher replay value, if that makes sense?</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 17 Jul 2012 00:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Saskrotch says:</i></b><p>most of my tracks are like 3-6 mini songs in the same key</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 23:54:27 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>labrie says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>ant1 wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>...and most peoples 5 minute songs only have about 30 seconds of musical idea in them anyway!</p></blockquote></div><p>ant1 himself. it&#039;s a pleasure. </p><p>couldn&#039;t agree more</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 22:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>ant1 says:</i></b><p>hrm i thought this was about filesize until i read it</p><p>but yes i am a real fan of the shorter songs but people don&#039;t seem to give them as much respect as a 5 minute song... and most peoples 5 minute songs only have about 30 seconds of musical idea in them anyway!</p><p>there are loads and loads of really short little module files if you look around at modland (i know looking for good music at modland can feel like looking for a needly in a haystack sometimes though) for example (modarchive has a minimum length requirement) and they will have more of an Old School Sound and won&#039;t be post hardcore punk rock</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 16 Jul 2012 21:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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