I really enjoyed reading all of this.

It's hard to judge what should happen with "the scene"...It's not exactly a scene. We have certain technological sensibilities in common and use similar tools to achieve goals, the goals musically being very different (prog rock, electro, experimental and noise music, 80s era nostalgia pieces). As an example if T Pain and Alva Noto were considered the same type of music because they both recorded their music on a mac...well you see what I mean.

I felt it needed to be said. chip music is not a genre, it's not an ideology, it's a loose association of shared techniques for sound design using a somewhat specific set of hardware or sounds.

The steps needed to cement the scene in place seem to me to be smaller tribes of musicians with similar goals making collectives (ie realizing this isn't one scene but alot of them sharing production techniques)...to stop using "chip" as a genre or umbrella and instead treat it for what it is, colors for painting. to play down the process and up the creativity, production and marketing of what it is you're trying to create and how it fits into music as a whole as opposed to how it's made.

sorry

yeah because 98% of humans on earth are shitty electro house DJs it wasnt that hard for them to find each other

if i went out into the world and talked to people i'd end up being friends with steve aoki or afrojack

if you don't like the site why don't you just sign out and not come back instead of trying to police which spaces other people use for innocuous and constructive interaction which ultimately Makes Them Happy

if it doesn't pay to be a dick online why don't you stop doing it

sorry

This talk about fame and gigs and the scene rising to prevalence is confusing me. I don't have any gigs or fame, nor do I really plan to. I just enjoy making music darnit, and learning about the ins and outs and fiddling with stuff. I feel welcome here and I don't let anyone take this away from me.

yeah making friends and talking to like minded people and learning about things that interest you really sucks doesn't it

(or maybe it does and i just don't see it because i'm just another cog in the wheel :<)

wait i'm confused, is that not how it works? :v

okay but seriously i think i know who you're referring to and i gotta respectfully disagree. i don't think there's even a single person here who's actually like that. we all have our reasons for sporadic releases and shows, and sometimes it's fun to be a bit of a helmet (for me, at least). but the self-appreciative cool kid circlejerk doesn't really exist on cm.o

sorry

This made me snork milk out of my nose.

DUDE.  With all due respek mr. esc, the michigan scene has grown quite a bit since ive last seen your face.  With the piko piko group michigan has at least 3 gigs a month in south eastish michigan alone.

Even with McCarthy's being gone many venues have opened up due to the piko guys perseverance.

When kkrusty and saskrotch came into town last both of the gigs we played had great turnouts and plenty of beer.  So wont you come back to michigan?  You havnt been shot yet!

Or kids who were probably the nerdy/bullied kids in school and are now grown-ups with internet fame (that's not an insult). Or teenagers.

Also: if you dont like thinned skin people, dont hang out in a scene full of teenagers, pervo.