<![CDATA[ChipMusic.org - 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/9666/1-bit-on-dmg01/ Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:16:49 +0000 PunBB <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148570/#p148570 egr says:

lol my brain has been overly literal lately wink

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 23:16:49 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148570/#p148570 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148554/#p148554 Cooshinator says:

</joke>

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 21:20:17 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148554/#p148554 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148544/#p148544 egr says:
Cooshinator wrote:
irrlichtproject wrote:

because an audible signal would require at least two bits.

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He means two "bits" in length, one "on" and one "off".

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:14:59 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148544/#p148544 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148543/#p148543 Cooshinator says:
irrlichtproject wrote:

because an audible signal would require at least two bits.

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]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 19:12:27 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148543/#p148543 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148539/#p148539 irrlichtproject says:

because an audible signal would require at least two bits.

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:45:25 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148539/#p148539 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148535/#p148535 Cooshinator says:

Why has 1-bit-length music never been done?

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 17:20:13 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148535/#p148535 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148532/#p148532 lastfuture says:

my bit is lower fidelity than yours

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:40:24 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148532/#p148532 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148529/#p148529 herr_prof says:

FUCK YOU GUYS IM MAKING ONE BAT MUSIC CAUSE IM SO DARK

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:34:41 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148529/#p148529 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148526/#p148526 danimal cannon says:

bit depth dick measuring contest.

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 16:28:59 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148526/#p148526 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148524/#p148524 PULSELOOPER says:
irrlichtproject wrote:

says whatever he wants about 1-bit music

/thread

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 15:47:18 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148524/#p148524 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148449/#p148449 lastfuture says:
defPREMIUM wrote:

next question. if i put 1 bit through a bitcrusher do black holes?

quite literally nothing would happen to the sound characteristic.

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 02:35:13 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148449/#p148449 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148439/#p148439 Delek says:

1 bit cpus already exist and more could be released, so the ambiguity is just right there.

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:22:34 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148439/#p148439 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148436/#p148436 irrlichtproject says:
Delek wrote:
Cooshinator wrote:

True, but I don't see a problem in calling it "1-bit music" if the song only uses one bit of the 4-bit soundchip's hardware.

There IS a problem, because it is an ambiguous term, "x-bit music" already exist to describe the music done with certain CPU word size (8 bits CPUs, 16 bits CPUs, etc), I think that 1bit-depth music is a better term for this type of stuff.

well, if i remember correctly there is just one existing 1-bit CPU architecture, and I don't think it has ever been used for making music. So I don't see any ambiguity here. I know of no instance in the past where the term 1-bit music/1bit audio has been used refer to something other than a bitstream being send/read through a DAC/ADC.

in regards to gameboy and using one channel with one output level: no, that would not make it 1-bit music. Flipping a single bit would mean to simply switch the channel on or off - theoretically it's doable (even within lsdj, i suppose), but currently no such software implementation exists on Gameboy.

btw for those who are new to the subject, i recommend this article by Shiru for a start.

ed: not sure about the existance of 1bit cpus, if anybody has knowledge on the subject i'd be insterested wink

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 01:13:21 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148436/#p148436 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148432/#p148432 Cooshinator says:
Zef wrote:

Yes it is a 4 bit system, and but using 1 of 4 channels still doesn't make it 1 bit.

I don't believe I ever said anything like that.

Zef wrote:

And even if you limited yourself to one volume level for that channel it likely still wouldn't end up as true 1 bit.

If you stick to one volume level, and the level you choose is either 1, 2, 4, or 8, from my understanding (correct me if I'm wrong), the Gameboy's soundchip will use only one specific bit to output sound. I am hesitant to see how that cannot, in the very least, be described as 1-bit music.

Zef wrote:

Someone could probably program the gameboy to output in beeper fashion, and but I wouldn't be convinced by anything coming from lsdj.

I don't really see how that would change anything; two different pieces of software that use the hardware in the same manner still use the the hardware in the same manner.

Delek wrote:

There IS a problem, because it is an ambiguous term, "x-bit music" already exist to describe the music done with certain CPU word size (8 bits CPUs, 16 bits CPUs, etc), I think that 1bit-depth music is a better term for this type of stuff.

Very true; "1-bit-depth" music is a term much more apt for describing the music this thread is inquiring about. I however feel that, because "1-bit music" is such an ambiguous term, using it in this situation could easily be acceptable. The soundchip is outputting the music through only one of its bits, creating music that is one-bit. Forgive me if there is some standardized definition of the term that I am currently unaware of.

]]> Mon, 31 Dec 2012 00:21:42 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148432/#p148432 <![CDATA[Re: 1 bit on dmg-01]]> https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148428/#p148428 defPREMIUM says:

next question. if i put 1 bit through a bitcrusher do black holes?

]]> Sun, 30 Dec 2012 23:37:26 +0000 https://chipmusic.org/forums/post/148428/#p148428