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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>jikoo says:</i></b><p>Thank you very much guys. I learned many things ! Very interesting !</p><p>I updated the webpage !<br /><a href="http://woolyss.com/chipmusic.php" target="_blank">http://woolyss.com/chipmusic.php</a></p><p><img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /> Thanks 4 your help !</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Wed, 24 Mar 2010 01:12:31 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>viznut says:</i></b><p>Yeah, the cultural use of the term &quot;8-bit&quot; (meaning something like &quot;the kind of stuff you would expect from machines with 8-bit data buses&quot;) is quite irritating, and that&#039;s why I tend to put it between quotation marks unless the usage is technically valid. And that&#039;s also why I&#039;ve been looking for alternative terms.</p><p>But, into some nitpicking. There was no proper editor software in the very beginning, pioneers like Hubbard just used machine code monitors. Rob stated in an interview that he had no time for writing an editor, but I guess he had learned to like his monitor so much that he didn&#039;t really desire anything else. Also, it took some time before the term &quot;tracker&quot; was adopted from the &quot;16-bit world&quot; into the &quot;8-bit world&quot;. Some people still think that only sample-based editors can be trackers, and some other people (like me) think that a tracker needs to have a &quot;spreadsheet approach&quot; (binding all the channels together instead of having separate pointers and orderlists per channel).</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Tue, 23 Mar 2010 09:34:12 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>boomlinde says:</i></b><p>Well, the buses of most chips usually associated with chip music are 8 bits wide. Maybe that&#039;s where we would draw the line if the term was a technical one. But hey, we live in a world where rock music doesn&#039;t necessarily rock you, where blues isn&#039;t necessarily blue and where Sony distributes indie music.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 23:20:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>akira^8GB says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>µB wrote:</cite><blockquote><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It just an era term. If you where alive then, and not shitting your pants every five mins, everything was advertised as 8bit!!!!!!!!</p></blockquote></div><p>True. If you consider it that way (ie common CPU register size), it works.</p></blockquote></div><p>But then you have the Atari ST and it stops working again <br />;_;</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 22:53:02 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>µB says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>herr_prof wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>It just an era term. If you where alive then, and not shitting your pants every five mins, everything was advertised as 8bit!!!!!!!!</p></blockquote></div><p>True. If you consider it that way (ie common CPU register size), it works.</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:58:40 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>8bitweapon says:</i></b><p>How about adding Apple II &amp; Apple IIGS info on there as well? <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:55:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>akira^8GB says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Beware wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>The demo and chipmusic scene was started by using SID samples on an Amiga, so to claim they are any more or less &quot;real&quot; really belittles the hard work they put into it.</p></blockquote></div><p>What is a REAL chiptune DID start on the Amiga the way you mention, however, chipmusic and the demoscene started with the 8-bit computers with no samples in sight, many years before the Amiga existed.</p><p>As usual I stick to Goto80&#039;s definitions and Viznut&#039;s current document about &quot;computationally minimal&quot; is something I am really liking as a definition too.</p><p>I agree with Beware though: Saying 8-bit is misleading, however also calling &quot;fakebit&quot; chiptune is misleading, calling chipmusic &quot;chiptune&quot; is misleading, and calling musicians that use old computer hardware to make music &quot;chip tuners&quot; is dismal D:</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:50:39 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Beware says:</i></b><p>Regardless of whether it is 16bit or whatever, this just shows the its not black and white enough to keep the term &quot;8bit soundchip.&quot;&nbsp; I was calling for a full removal of the term, not a revision. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:43:38 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>herr_prof says:</i></b><p>It just an era term. If you where alive then, and not shitting your pants every five mins, everything was advertised as 8bit!!!!!!!!</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:43:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>µB says:</i></b><p>I always thought that the term referred to the output resolution. Not that that would make a xBit categorization easier, since DACs and stuff mess with the discrete-ness as well. And every system uses it&#039;s own trickery to further complicate things. If I remember correctly, the OPL uses an 8Bit table to form the rising quarter of a sine and just flips that, making the output 9bit (not counting the DAC that seems to operate with floats and likely adds some kind of interpolation).</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 14:34:25 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>plgDavid says:</i></b><div class="quotebox"><cite>Beware wrote:</cite><blockquote><p>I&#039;d also remove mentions of &quot;8 bit soundchips&quot; since Sega Genesis is very <br />16-bit</p></blockquote></div><p>Well there nothing inherently &#039;16bit&#039; about the YM2612, its a discreet chip driven by an 8bit address/data bus. It could easily be driven by a 6502 for example. So its not that black and white. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/smile.png" width="15" height="15" alt="smile" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Mon, 22 Mar 2010 13:10:50 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>jikoo says:</i></b><p>Thank you Russolo and Beware. I continue to improve. <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p><p>I updated the webpage.<br /><a href="http://woolyss.com/chipmusic.php" target="_blank">http://woolyss.com/chipmusic.php</a></p><p><img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 18:18:04 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Beware says:</i></b><p>@Ant1: I don&#039;t think he needs a deep section on anything, just a slight passing mention of it.</p><p>Very glad to see some of those changes!&nbsp; Hoping for more!&nbsp; Still have the term &quot;real chiptune.&quot;&nbsp; <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/tongue.png" width="15" height="15" alt="tongue" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 04:34:34 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>Russolo says:</i></b><p>good definition, you have a great website overall jikoo</p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Sat, 20 Mar 2010 03:14:11 +0000</pubDate>
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			<description><![CDATA[<b><i>jikoo says:</i></b><p>Thank you guys!</p><p>@Heosphoros, I added this genre and put a MP3 of Machinae Supremacy. thx 4 help !</p><p>@Ant1, thank you too. Sure, it&#039;s a quick definition... and I want it stay like that ! But, I think it&#039;s good to talk about MML and specifities of each sound chip. (I have got them already on my computer). I will open new sections on the website.</p><p>@Beware,<br />It&#039;s a very good help that you gave me. I noticed all. I fixed some issues and I continue. Big thx ! <img src="https://chipmusic.org/forums/img/smilies/wink.png" width="15" height="15" alt="wink" /></p>]]></description>
			<pubDate>Fri, 19 Mar 2010 11:59:19 +0000</pubDate>
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