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Hi, can anybody tell me how to reproduce this two sounds with lsdj?

instrument1: http://soelie.de/stuff/ins1.xi
* as mp3: http://soelie.de/stuff/ins1.mp3
(C-4 C-5 C-4 C-5)

instrument2: http://soelie.de/stuff/ins2.xi
* as mp3: http://soelie.de/stuff/ins2.mp3
(C-4 C-5 C-4 C-5)

Might be 'noobish' for some of you, but I really don't know how to do it (tried with pulse, wave - couldn't make it)..

Regards chipnchap

Last edited by chipnchap (Jun 27, 2012 12:45 pm)

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England

can you maybe post some mp3s rather than fastracker instruments?

we are using lsdj after all :)

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mp3-files have been added smile

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Savannah, Georgia

i don't think i want to waste the next 10 minutes telling you the many ways those sounds are virtually impossible or improbable to recreate.

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I have a theory...I'm on it, be back soon.


/me retreats to the Frostcave

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The Multiverse ::: [CA, Sac]

I was gonna do it but i think I'll just stand back here and see what Frosty has to say.

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Closest I got with like, 5 minutes time. Just "emulated" PWM on wav and pulse channels. If you want the patches, I'll type them up in a little bit.

http://db.tt/dN2YEtMX

For now, I'm gonna go eat this:

Last edited by Frostbyte (Jun 27, 2012 4:23 pm)

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Medina, Ohio

Nice one frostbyte big_smile

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The Multiverse ::: [CA, Sac]

Never had any doubt.

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Thx alot, FrostByte. Amazing! Bon appétit! And don't hesitate to send me the bill of your sandwich wink

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No problemo! And thanks for all the compliments guys, making me feel good about myself on an off day wink Oh you.

Anyway, on to the technical side.

WAV:
So for the WAV channel, I did this by "emulating" PWM. Technically it is PWM, but not as smooth as the 16 bit systems do it or whatever. You go into the wave screen, and manually enter a pulse wave that has a midpoint in the middle of the screen, and draw 2 more waves where the midpoint moves more toward the left. Set the instrument to manual in the instrument screen.

Then in a table put this:

F01  --
--      --
--      E02
F02   --
--       --
--       E01
F03    --
--       E00
H09   H09

Basically what that does is the F commands are telling the instrument to switch waveforms to the number indicated, in this case, shortening the PWM. What the E commands are doing are automating and emulating a lower envelope, so that it has a little bit of a decay in the note.


Pulse:
This one is a little bit simpler and less work, but it might be in the way of some other pulse instruments you have going on (that's why I also made a wav channel one). Make a pulse instrument with an envelope like 77 (that should be sufficient, just make sure the not will release) and make a table for it. The table should look like this:

W03
--
W02
--
W01
--
H06

W commands don't have numbers, but I don't know how to notate it. Use the third wave, then the second one, and then the first one (if you don't understand, I'll try to make a screenshot).


Hope this helps big_smile

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Chicago IL
Frostbyte wrote:

W commands don't have numbers, but I don't know how to notate it.

12.5 25 50 75

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Oh word, thanks man!

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So FrostByte proved that Aeros was wrong I think..

Aeros wrote:

i don't think i want to waste the next 10 minutes telling you the many ways those sounds are virtually impossible or improbable to recreate.

Thanks Frostbyte, you are my hero of the day smile

(I think, I can learn much better whit this than by playing around with envs, shapes, sweeps, waves a.s.o.  w/o to know what might happen)

CnC

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NC in the US of America

Wow, Frostbyte. That's p.cool.

I see I have a looooong way to go in understanding sound design. Just for the sake of this thread being a complete knowledge for this instrument, what does "PWM" stand for? Pulse wave modulation?

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Bristol, UK

Pulse Width Modulation