SAMPLETRACKER on ZX Spectrum. (Page 1 of 3)

Hehe thanks man... saw this post earlier but couldn't log into cm.org again, thanks to Vodafone and their crappy IP pool.

So, finally I found the .scl version on some Russian website. Got AMD, too. Created a blank .trd, and copied an unsigned 8bit 16kHz drum sample to it. Loaded the tracker in FUSE, attached .trd image with the sample, click LOAD SAMPLE and... NO SAMPLES FOUND. Arrghhh! Any ideas what I'm doing wrong? I'm complete clueless.

One more question, does ST support looping of samples?

Last edited by irrlichtproject (Feb 17, 2013 3:21 pm)

Oh boy, what an act just to get this working. As a friend of mine often says: The worst work is the work you have to do in order to actually do the work you want to do. Trying to figure out RC now. Already found out that Escape toggles keyboard language (I wonder what button it is on a real machine.) But how do you rename something? Keep in mind I don't speak Russian

edit: nevermind, figured out how to rename files. (If anybody is interested, it's key 6.) ST doesn't seem to be too keen on actually playing back the sample though. Well, maybe it's too short or something. Will check that out tomorrow, I've had enough for today

Last edited by irrlichtproject (Feb 17, 2013 9:38 pm)

SQ Tracker and Sample Tracker was my main tools in the days of ZX Spectrum (for those who don't know, it was created by people from Czech republic, SQ is shortcut of Scalex and Qjeta (very very good musicians)). I think it was MQM2 demo from MQM team where was for first time showcased capabilities of Sample tracker.

I purchased version 3D, which was for D40 disk drive from Didaktik Skalica (5,25 DD), this disk drive features also parallel 8255 port, which can be used for many tasks, but for us musicians it is more important that you can implement 8-bit D/A converter into that port and experience quality of sample playback almost as on Amiga, instead of 4-bit playback on AY chip. Only thing that was bad, was crashes on 48k Spectrum (clone Didaktik M from Didaktik Skalica which "features" very bad russian ULA etc. (megademos like Shock was performed for example very badly)) with AY interface Melodik and D40 and D/A converter so i later purchased spanish ZX Spectrum 128k+ with Datel +D disk interface with 3,5" drive and some additional hw, which was zillion times more stable.

Last edited by martin_demsky (Feb 18, 2013 9:38 am)

Martin_demsky:

> SQ Tracker and Sample Tracker was my main tools in the days of ZX Spectrum (for those who don't know, it was created by people from Czech republic, SQ is shortcut of Scalex and Qjeta (very very good musicians)). I think it was MQM2 demo from MQM team where was for first time showcased capabilities of Sample tracker.
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Yupp - old and classic stuff.

> but for us musicians it is more important that you can implement 8-bit D/A converter into that port and experience quality of sample playback almost as on Amiga, instead of 4-bit playback on AY chip.
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yes, that's what I meant by "covox" because that's how Russians called it in their 2.1 version (for TR-DOS) although it still uses only 3 channels instead of typical 4ch.

> so i later purchased spanish ZX Spectrum 128k+ with Datel +D disk interface with 3,5" drive and some additional hw, which was zillion times more stable.
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Well, the 2.1 is only for 128K machines - BUT - its final file/module must work on 48K (by design), so it is interesting. And thanx to 128K version of the tracker, it can for instance use many more octaves (even played later on 48K).

irrlichtproject:

> However I don't actually care about sound quality, I'm planning to use it for beeper
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As for the sound quality beeper/AY/covox, those all versions are not different, I think.
However - of course - on beeper You can't really make the trick with delays (two samples with different volume).
On beeper You'd have to play the same sample in 2 channels, and the delay - in one channel only. Then it should work.

Last edited by YERZMYEY (Feb 25, 2013 1:19 pm)

........what is more funny, I've just found the 4rd SampleTracker I've never seen before.
SampleTracker 3T. "T", not "D".

Still 3 octaves, still for ZX48. Seems like it has more speeds (which is good). Among traditional 'tracker' speeds (4,5,6,7 and so on) it has more, like 6a, 6b and so on.

The problem is, the program has been written idiotically.
it has NO "Edit/Stop" section.

So it's impossible to make a song on it unless You find the "Edit" key by mistake/accident.
And I only ASSUME there is any keyboard shortcut for "Edit".

It's a remake from 1994. A *REALLY* CRAP WORK somebody made.
But after all, it's here: http://www.worldofspectrum.org/infoseek … id=0025503
Maybe has some more hidden features You might want to find.
I don't.

The Russian one (2.1) is faaaaaaaaaaaaar better (even if for 128K).

Last edited by YERZMYEY (Mar 1, 2013 11:19 am)

OK, now that's a cool curiosity.

I always suspected but I wasn't sure (one never can be sure about ancient classic machines) if SampleTracker (digital music) and SoundTracker (chipmusic) on ZX Spectrum both have the same tempo.

So - seems like they have.
http://yerzmyey.i-demo.pl/SampleTracker … r_Test.mp3
It might give interesting possibilities of mixing two playing machines - one part of the song built of samples and the second one - constructed as a pure chiptune.
6 channels in result. Really interesting...

A techno/rave album made by Slovakian artist 'project.GAMA' entirely on Spectrum48 clone Didaktik, with SampleTracker 3D + 8-bit d/a converter (in simple - a covox).
http://soundcloud.com/granatco/sets/project-gama/