Gaseyes/Stakks - 8 Bit Rap EP (Page 1 of 2)

why is it a big no no to use an accappela of 'other rappers' ? Did he ever say he is a rapper ? No. He just said he used to make rap beats.

I cant listen now, im at work - but i'll check these out when i get home.

Well. Hip hop as a genre was pretty much always based around sampling other people's music in small bits, arranging those in a decent groove, and injecting it with a massive dose of soul by rapping over it. The unique element is the rap. Even if today we have producers who make hip hop from scratch without sampling loops from other music, the musical genre still rests upon very minimal and simple music over which you layer a well composed rap. It's not frowned upon to sample a bit of a rap and use it as a hook, just as it's not generally frowned upon to sample bits of and old record and using it as a groove.

But to use an entire vocal track, virtually unchanged save for a few grossly misapplied effects here and there. Well that's just like taking the entire music from Stairway To Heaven and add your own lyrics to it. Would you find that acceptable? Maybe you would... but I daresay the majority of people would not. You could cover the song however. You can have the same chord progression, you can have a similar production, sound, arrangement and whatnot to try and sound exactly like Stairway to Heaven. But that's still YOUR work, albeit of a relatively unimaginative nature. But to use the entire music, sans lyrics, straight from the album, without authorisation from the artist, is a dick move.

So about GasEyes' "music". It's not unlistenable at all. I mean these are basically bits of musics produced by decent musicians, layered with vocal tracks made by talented rappers, synced to a beat (that I wouldn't be surprised to learn is a loop from a library). It's very hard to fail at making it sound decent, seriously. But in the end.. he did nothing original. He pitched and synced a few things together.

Now.. if he was to do all of that LIVE, using a couple of kaoss pads and a turntable... there would be something to it. There's the human element, the chance for error, the improvisational aspect etc. But these obvious studio hacks leave me unimpressed, and somewhat disappointed that someone could call this their own creations. As Glitch said, lawsuit pending.

You can now throw all kinds of insulting retorts at me.

I basically totally agree with noobstar, but this is such a reasonable, unassuming response. Just be careful with how you credit yourself gaseyes. I thought the mashups were pretty cool!

I haven't checked out Gaseye's stuff, but don't some rappers release their A Capella tracks specifically for people to do this kind of stuff with?

your right, i should have posted the songs real name and just said it was a remix instead of making it look like it was one of my tracks, I will correct this later

Noobstar - i totally disagree. If you want to make rap beats, it doesn't mean you have to rap over them does it ?
What he's done isnt really any different from what any other rap producer does.
They make a beat - they get someone else to rap on it. Albeit some rappers make their own beats and then rap on them - but not most of them. Most rappers have a few producers they work with. But of course a guy in his bedroom makes rap beats and whacks an accappela on them - for the sole reason that he doesn't know any rappers id imagine / I'd rather listen to a beat with a studio accappela on it than some dork trying to rap and being terrible (there are plently of people doing this already).
Technically they are remixes i guess, but i think your comment is a bit pedantic. Its hardly like he is trying to pass of these raps as his own. I could see your point if he'd used small underground rappers and not mentioned it, but come on he's put dre and eminem over it. I think its quite obvious that he's making mash-ups.