Heya,
I just popped up a guide here ^ on doing this :)
happy new year chipmusic folks \o/
ne7
See in thread for info on PR8 + Pulsar as I dig it up :)
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hey analog, you should be able to follow the same guide on the NES too - (the PRG pinout is still the same iirc) u just need to find a compatible cartridge donor is all - happy chipping 
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Someone needs to do a synthpunk project using only this and the built in mic like YESTERDAY.
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so the only problem SHOULD be the donor? which board it may use?
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herr_prof wrote:
Someone needs to do a synthpunk project using only this and the built in mic like YESTERDAY.
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NO CARRIER wrote:
herr_prof wrote:Someone needs to do a synthpunk project using only this and the built in mic like YESTERDAY.
Funny you dudes should mention this. We recently unearthed a cassette of a certain someone doing this exact thing. The tape was recorded around 95-96 and used the dezaemon cart for famicom.
More info soon.
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Analog:
For NES any "NES-SNROM" board (http://bootgod.dyndns.org:7777/search.p … =NES-SNROM) will do as long as it has a battery
eg
nes open tournament golf (pretty common / cheap I should think)
bards tale
zelda etc
Nordloef:
saving works on the cart via SRAM...
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Tutorial request - Is there an easy way to backup the sram to a computer with this method?
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you could use: http://www.chrismcovell.com/TapeDump_Controls.html if your feeling brave hehe ;D left on controller dumps sram *grin* or ask Neil nicely to implement something similar inside of NTRQ - i was waffling about sommat similar (data via audio output) to him a while back \o_
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Maybe it could be worked out with CopyNES?
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copyNES would totally work yea - you could just dump the SRAM from the cart direct (but of course u need the copyNES h/w)
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A couple of questions:
- Could I do this as your first project?
- Could I use an American cartridge if I do this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vL5TE0 … re=related) on an European NES? The NES cartridges from the US are cheaper than the European ones.
- Is this (http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/NEW-1-X-27C … 4ab10e8c58) a good chip to burn it to?
- Are there other programs (Pulsar, pr8,...) or games (Mega Man 2, Super Mario Bros,...) that you can put on a cartridge using the same method? If so, is there some way that you can change these chips on the go? (maybe a socket to put the chips in, I got the idea from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRS5Jm_a … j-yZ2Ks_rL look around the 7 minutes mark) Also, what would happen to the save files when you change the chips? Are they on the chips themselves or on the cartridge?
- Any cheaper way to back up the SRAM? $70 is too much
- Where can I find an EPROM burner for NES chips? I've only found burners that are over £60 without shipping, but the tutorial mentions burners for £20. Burners that can also work for 16 bit systems would be very interesting but I've got to watch my wallet.
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Hey Lavar, cor thats a lot of Q's - here you go:
Lavar wrote:
A couple of questions:
A couple of questions:
- Could I do this as your first project?
No - I would seriously start with some simple electronics builds first - this is not a beginner project :)
- Could I use an American cartridge if I do this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vL5TE0 … re=related) on an European NES? The NES cartridges from the US are cheaper than the European ones.
yes :) you would also need to burn/blow the PAL version of NTRQ as the NTSC one would prob cause probs on UK machine...
- Is this (http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/NEW-1-X-27C … 4ab10e8c58) a good chip to burn it to?
Yep but you dont need to buy new chips, just get 2nd hand ones and erase them - miles cheaper...
- Are there other programs (Pulsar, pr8,...) or games (Mega Man 2, Super Mario Bros,...) that you can put on a cartridge using the same method? If so, is there some way that you can change these chips on the go? (maybe a socket to put the chips in, I got the idea from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRS5Jm_a … j-yZ2Ks_rL look around the 7 minutes mark) Also, what would happen to the save files when you change the chips? Are they on the chips themselves or on the cartridge?
Save files live in the SRAM on the cartridge, powered by battery :)
You can put anything that runs on the NES on a cart, you just have to find the correct cart to put it onto. Pulstar / PR8 need the same board type as Final Fantasy I/II... which is rareish.
- Any cheaper way to back up the SRAM? $70 is too much
As I said above you could use the Tape transfer cartridge but you'd have to build one of those too...
- Where can I find an EPROM burner for NES chips? I've only found burners that are over £60 without shipping, but the tutorial mentions burners for £20. Burners that can also work for 16 bit systems would be very interesting but I've got to watch my wallet
Burner:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-G540-Univ … 4ab12326db
^ 39.00£
They swing a lot in price... Also thats an 8bit eprom burner only... You could prob find one cheaper by talking direct to the manufacturer in China...
Hope that helps :)
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Hey Lavar, cor thats a lot of Q's - here you go:
Lavar wrote:A couple of questions:
A couple of questions:
- Could I do this as your first project?
No - I would seriously start with some simple electronics builds first - this is not a beginner project
- Could I use an American cartridge if I do this (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i3vL5TE0 … re=related) on an European NES? The NES cartridges from the US are cheaper than the European ones.
yes
- Is this (http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/NEW-1-X-27C … 4ab10e8c58) a good chip to burn it to?
Yep but you dont need to buy new chips, just get 2nd hand ones and erase them - miles cheaper...
- Are there other programs (Pulsar, pr8,...) or games (Mega Man 2, Super Mario Bros,...) that you can put on a cartridge using the same method? If so, is there some way that you can change these chips on the go? (maybe a socket to put the chips in, I got the idea from this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vRS5Jm_a … j-yZ2Ks_rL look around the 7 minutes mark) Also, what would happen to the save files when you change the chips? Are they on the chips themselves or on the cartridge?
Save files live in the SRAM on the cartridge, powered by battery
You can put anything that runs on the NES on a cart, you just have to find the correct cart to put it onto. Pulstar / PR8 need the same board type as Final Fantasy I/II... which is rareish.
- Any cheaper way to back up the SRAM? $70 is too much
As I said above you could use the Tape transfer cartridge but you'd have to build one of those too...
- Where can I find an EPROM burner for NES chips? I've only found burners that are over £60 without shipping, but the tutorial mentions burners for £20. Burners that can also work for 16 bit systems would be very interesting but I've got to watch my wallet
Burner:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/USB-G540-Univ … 4ab12326db
^ 39.00£They swing a lot in price... Also thats an 8bit eprom burner only... You could prob find one cheaper by talking direct to the manufacturer in China...
Hope that helps
Helps a whole lot! I have another question, but I think it isn't as hard as the previous. What would I need to learn before trying this? What are some good projects to learn these skills?