Tinctu
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UPDATED 23.4.2012

Yes you can generate (render) your own samples with
some oldschool/demoscene/ sample generators:

XWAVE SOFTSYNTH
LINK
http://old.scene.org/2001/file.php?file … p;fileinfo

GmDlsTool
LINK
http://www.pouet.net/prod.php?which=30541

TS404
LINK
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/ts-404.shtml

SubSynth
LINK
http://www.sonicspot.com/subsynth/subsynth.html

GranuLab
LINK
http://hem.passagen.se/rasmuse/Granny.htm

Defractor
LINK
http://www.neurotix.com/defractor-e.php

Orangator T-Rex
LINK
http://www.sonicspot.com/orangator/orangator.html

SimSynth
LINK
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/simsynth.shtml

SubBastard
LINK
http://www.findthatfile.com/search-2221 … rd.rar.htm

Synthia
LINK
http://www.findthatfile.com/search-6577 … ia.zip.htm

SMoRphi
LINK
http://www.sonicspot.com/smorphi/smorphi.html

Stomper (drums)
LINK
http://www.lysator.liu.se/~zap/stomper/ … egister=OK

VAZ
LINK
http://www.vaz-synths.com/vpIndex.html

AudioFX
LINK
http://www.sonicspot.com/audiofx/audiofx.html

Drumsynth2 (drums)
LINK
http://www.threechords.com/hammerhead/d … msynt2.zip

SYD
LINK
http://files1.sonicspot.com/syd/syd107.zip

Damod
LINK
http://members.tripod.com/~dsh/DaMod.zip

Hog
LINK
http://bpcmusic.com/hog/

Vocoder
LINK
http://www.epiphyte.ca/proj/vocoder

AXVocoder
LINK
http://www.analogx.com/contents/downloa … ocoder.htm

Wavecraft (need download link)
LINK
http://www.sonicspot.com/wavecraft/wavecraft.html

Spot FX
LINK
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/phil.james7/PJ_SpotFX.rar

SeqGen
LINK
http://and.intercon.ru/releases/audio/seqgen/

SFXR
LINK
http://www.drpetter.se/project_sfxr.html

MSGen
LINK
http://and.intercon.ru/releases/audio/msgen/

BOABassDrumV2(Drums)
LINK
ftp://ftp.sac.sk/pub/sac/sound/boabd20a.zip

BlipGen
LINK
http://www.spicypixel.net/2007/12/21/bl … generator/

FourCycleSynth
LINK
http://niffpage.greywool.com/files/Tool … ynth13.zip

Nightradio VirtualANS
LINK
http://www.warmplace.ru/soft/ans/ans.zip

NEW ^ Flexi Music Generator (Commercial)
LINK
http://fleximusic.com/product/fleximusic-generator

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When you will "google" something new, fresh, freeware or opensource post link here...

PS: Mayne Shiru´s BeepFX too...
BeepFX
LINK
http://shiru.untergrund.net/files/beepfx102.zip

Last edited by Tinctu (Apr 23, 2012 7:41 am)

akira^8GB
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My problem is, a sampled sinewave in 8-bit usually sounds like shit on lower hertz level. It is almost impossible to get a proper bass sound sad

starpause
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akira, have you tried generating a much lower frequency single cycle waveform?

an-cat-max
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astral cat
akira^8GB wrote:

My problem is, a sampled sinewave in 8-bit usually sounds like shit on lower hertz level. It is almost impossible to get a proper bass sound sad

forever fart bass~

SKGB
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Godzilladelph

this is great!

akira^8GB
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starpause wrote:

akira, have you tried generating a much lower frequency single cycle waveform?

The noise is ridiculous, also I am restricted to a certain frequency range (using the Amiga, not piggying).

an0va
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I bet 99% of these are all Windows only >_<

SKGB
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Godzilladelph

lolmacs
that sucks though

Last edited by SKGB (Apr 5, 2012 6:16 pm)

Tinctu
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Use WineHQ (Linux on MAC) or WmWare Fusion or buy Windows XP and install it (bootcamp)...
Or buy old 98 or XP Notebook X86 for 50USD to 100USD...
(all of these are old - for Win95 or Win98)

Last edited by Tinctu (Apr 5, 2012 6:29 pm)

Tinctu
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@ AKIRA - So surf on that sinewave smile
Surfing on sinewave...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vYncpl … re=related

akira^8GB
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Tinctu wrote:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=00vYncpl … re=related

This is an XM hmm

Tinctu
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I know smile. Just nice song by I found on 8BC.
Hmm I was doing SINEWAVE/BASS with LOOP in Fasttracker and ultra-short sample.
And OCTAVE down. It can generate clean sound. Just play with LOOP parameters.
Use MILKY or RENOISE another tracker with LOOP...

Matt

Last edited by Tinctu (Apr 6, 2012 9:38 am)

akira^8GB
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Tinctu wrote:

I was doing SINEWAVE/BASS with LOOP in Fasttracker and ultra-short sample.
And OCTAVE down. It can generate clean sound. Just play with LOOP parameters.
Use MILKY or RENOISE another tracker with LOOP...

You can use 16 bit waves on those. I am using an AMIGA, I am not going to use Milkytracker or Renoise.


As starpause says single cycle looped waveforms do help with the case, but some times a single cycle waveform is just not what I want, specially since PT lacks any envelope controls and doing it with commands is tedious.

µB
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A gray world of dread

Hm, if you can spare a channel, you may be able to increase resolution with a parallel signal which complements the first. Calculating the different waveforms to do that might be tricky, though.

Edit: Another option would be to slightly modulate the waveform (so it's not a pure sine). I usually try to do that for sine/tri basses so the aliasing 'fits' the bass sound (ie work with it, not against it)

Last edited by µB (Apr 6, 2012 10:49 am)

akira^8GB
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µB wrote:

Hm, if you can spare a channel, you may be able to increase resolution with a parallel signal which complements the first. Calculating the different waveforms to do that might be tricky, though.

Edit: Another option would be to slightly modulate the waveform (so it's not a pure sine). I usually try to do that for sine/tri basses so the aliasing 'fits' the bass sound (ie work with it, not against it)

That's a good trick. I can't really spare a track (I only have 4) though.
I would like to hear about the aliasing though. Protracker is aliasing the sound already somehow, but I just get too much noise when the volumes are low and the herz are low too. Some times I can't sample a louder bass sound... It's tricky.

Last edited by akira^8GB (Apr 6, 2012 11:10 am)

µB
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akira^8GB wrote:

Protracker is aliasing the sound already somehow, but I just get too much noise when the volumes are low and the herz are low too. Some times I can't sample a louder bass sound... It's tricky.

I don't know if there's a way around that. The low bit resolution essentially converts your waveform into a pile of stacked square waves. Low notes will make that more apparent, since the amplitude changes happen slower, and each decrease in volume will pronounce it, because you're reducing the number of amplitude jumps. The only thing you can do about it is to increase the number of samples (ie decrease phases per time) which will help with the rate of amplitude jumps. There's no way around the volume problem I can see safe multitracking- running two synched machines with complementary waveforms and decrease output volume by half (simply running two copies won't do the trick since just doubling the output and then half it again does nil. You'd have to adjust levels so they'll add to 'between' steps)

I can't help with the aliasing PT adds by itself, I never worked with it. Do you sample/convert natively on the Amiga? Comparing the input with the PT output might give an idea what's going on.