Thank you folks.
Indeed, I've been working with the sequencer as a matter of how I hear things, I'm a little lost on how to think in ticks. I'll pick it up eventually, I've just had bad luck with trial and error thus far.

Mr. Dire Hit, thank you. Either you've played teacher alot lately because you are better at that art than you might think, or simply because your music is awesome and you are the type that has an occasional soft spot for newbies. None of the above? Well, at any rate, Challenge accepted smile

Hey all.
I know there's a few pros around here (like Dire Hit) that I want to ask;
Is there any insights or advice anyone can offer on how to actually learn to take control of tables?

I fully understand that the core of getting everything you want from LSDJ requires fully utilizing the tables, but dig this. I can look at stuff like online "tutorials" (which I have), and use that infamous "patch book" (which I definitely have), and just find myself asking how the heck people came up with these formulas. Someone or something saying "just plug in this command and this value here and here" doesn't help, being just a do and not a how, unless it's otherwise random guessing that's the actual formula for all this and people are just instructing you to do that specific soundset only.

Seriously, how does someone know to plug a certain command onto the second, or fifth (or whatever) line on the first or second column of the table. Even with LSDJ's built in instructions for what each command means, I can't seem to craft a table on my own that sounds like anything decent.

So basically, how does anyone suggest learning, is there a set of standard practices or formulas or rules of thumb, or is it really complete experimentation and guesswork in the end?

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(11 replies, posted in Collaborations)

Done. And thank you again. I updated the page at bitpusher2600.net/music.html
Works on my end anyway, I don't know how it actually displays on other's computers but for now....

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(11 replies, posted in Collaborations)

Ha, dude that's sick as h*ll! Love it smile The low end actually sounds great, you nailed that. If I can ask, what did you use to perform this tune?
*Edit*
Sorry, was excited and totally forgot to ask, but do you have any way in particular you want it credited on my site? Do you have a website or homepage I can link to?

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(11 replies, posted in Collaborations)

Nursey, I'm grateful. The fact anyone would remix my mediocre tunes is a heck of a confidence booster wink
Anyway, thank you.

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Wow, just wow. Yerzmyey is a name that has long been on my short list of chiptune legends, and you actually re-do one of my tunes. I can't even describe how that feels. Thank you. As for the tune, that's proper amped up energy, sounds awesome in my Jeep smile

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(11 replies, posted in Collaborations)

I'd be honored man. Thank you!

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Hey all, just a question. I hope this isn't a rude or pretentious notion, but I would love to see if anyone would be up for remixing or covering any of the tunes on my website: www.bitpusher2600.net/music.html

As stated, simply for the fun of it. I would be crazy interested to hear people far more talented than I do stuff with my tunes. Remix them, or re-do them on different hardware, anything. I would of course host it for download on my own site, fully credit it however you want me to including linking your own webpage from there if you wish.

Since I'm nobody, it's not the kind of thing I would guess anyone would be particularly stoked to do, but again, I just wanted to throw it out there. I hope this idea isn't too ridiculous. Till later smile

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(41 replies, posted in General Discussion)

...and I'm just sitting here kind of glad there's another person out there utilizing a Gameboy. I think that much is cool.

I rather hope Bit Shifter can shed a little light since it's he's co owner of the label, but there were some awesome people on 8bitpeoples that I liked alot for one reason or another and can find little of who they are, or find more of their tunes.

*Coleco Music
I had a crush on that girl on the cover just from seeing it. Anyway, excellent beats.

*Dorothy's Magic Bag
Probably one of my favorite releases on 8BP. Who is this and where are they now?

*Sabastian Boaz
I don't know, I liked his stuff.

*X|K
I can't help it, I genuinely love me some techno and the stuff this guy was rocking on the NES was downright awesome. Seriously love this dude's work. Where is he now?

*Gordon Strombola
Of anything I've ever heard, this guy's one EP had me saying WTF. The very last track on his EP is called NASTY, and if you've never heard it, you should. I thoroughly enjoy cranking that track in my Jeep from time to time, the chorus just wont get out of your head once you hear it. Again, who the heck is this dude?

*SnoopDroop
Mellow, nice stuff but I can't find much on whoever this is.

Any bites...anyone?

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(1 replies, posted in General Discussion)

That word makes me automatically think of MC Frontalot...who is awesome by the by.

Hey. Sorry if it's bad protocol to resurrect a slightly dated thread but I want to say something and I'm just going to anyway.

OP, I've asked myself that question for a long time. It comes down to if you love doing it, like doing it, and where you see yourself in relation to the given culture. You know, I've had my own site for almost four years, I pay my monthly fee to keep my domain, I then give away all of my music such as it is for free. Even in all that time, nobody knows me, I know I'm not particularly talented, and yet I still press on. Why? Because it makes me feel good. What else matters? Would it break your spirit if someone tells you that they listened to your tunes, and found them simple, boring, poor for x number of reasons, etc? If so, that's a good time to consider yourself and the reason you wanted to create music in the first place. It's just my opinion that if the central focus of making music is for praise and recognition, you are not in the best place. If on the other hand you genuinely love electronic and chip music, in particular making your own creation just because you can, then why not? If there's little consideration to gains and losses, it then comes down to self satisfaction. Take me, I don't care if nobody ever knows me, I make chiptune, and am proud to be an active part of that culture. I can look at my tunes at any point and just feel awesome that I did something, created something that I can see and hear that nobody else has.

I'm sorry for the rambling, but basically, if you derive any satisfaction from making your own music, that's all that should really matter. You said you don't much like your own tunes. Based on what metric really? How about using none, make your tune, enjoy the process, and leave it right there? Besides, if you listen to your own tunes and are not satisfied, this is part of the fun. Make it satisfactory enough that you don't mind jamming it in your own car. If you truly find you don't enjoy making your own music, then no, I suppose it makes no more sense than say crafting furniture out of wood but in the end find that you hate using tools or smelling sawdust. I would just urge you that if you love chip music and can in any way enjoy simply making it, don't fret so hard on perceptions of good or not good, just keep doing it. Creation of anything does wonders for the soul.
/end ramble

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(18 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Now that is a heck of a video man, he really spent some time explaining his effects. I downloaded that and burnt it to a DVD for good measure. Thanks for posting that link good sir.

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(18 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Well hey, at least I got a first tune done and uploaded here. I thought I grasped the basics, but then I started reading the Roboctopus pages and my poor mind is totally blown, hardly understand a majority of what he's talking about. Hmm, isn't there something to be said for the excitement of going in over your head at full bore? smile Good times.

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(18 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Xuriik wrote:
bitpusher2600 wrote:

...like a one time use deal whereas making commands and such adjustments in the table make it a permanent part of that particular instrument, is that correct?

Not necessarily. Since there's the A command, you can create a table and use it in the phrase screen, independent of the instrument, and in a few different situations. This is useful for tremolo and other volume modulation tricks like what I said about note release; complex arpeggios (Seventh chords or more? Falling notes instead of rising?); and even pulse channel pwm or simulating effects like noise gate or ducking.

Roboctopus' LSDJ and You is really helpful for this, and all the mind blowing things you can do with the wav channel.

Ninten Kwon Do wrote:

A couple of chip artists have released their save files and stuff so I'd go check those out.

This one brought some mostly new techniques to the table AND brings both a sav and a helpful pdf talking about them! https://datathrash.bandcamp.com/album/HYMNAL

I have no idea what half of what you just said means sad
I have no education whatsoever in music theory and whatnot. I used to be a live turntable DJ at just a couple of local clubs years ago, and I know my way around Audacity, that's about it. I also have no idea what a stutter table or gating effect is. You guys are somewhere beyond me. I'm sorry.

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This is truly awesome, i'm on the right track then and by pure luck smile

I've done chiptune with a pair of  Atari 2600's but that was essentially playing a synthesizer and then sequencing waveforms by hand in Audacity, easy stuff. Tracking though I have never touched and in fact shyed away from anything to do with LSDJ for years, just because it was massively intimidating and numbers are not something i'm good with at all, so the sight of that alone, geesh.

Thanks for the replies everyone. Hopefully I can chip in on these forums once in a while (terrible fracking pun, sorry.)

@Ninten Kwon Do,
If your statement wasn't sarcasm i'm absoluely flattered. I've been convinced for some time before just lately that LSDJ was well beyond my comprehension, and here i've got a drum track put together and have figured out some things on my own. I've looked over the Sabrepulse tutorial and a couple vids on YouTube but that stuff moves to quick for me to follow, so I'm just figuring things on my own. Anyway, thank you. I didn't expect to come away feeling incredibly encouraged smile