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This is so freaking dope it turned me into muggsy bogues

bumping/supporting this post a third time because IMO if you try to analyze "the online state" of any music/art scene it often times turns into an analysis of why people are upset looking at their internet devices all day. i don't think it's actually healthy to separate the "states" like that between real and the internet in that manner, tbh. i think physical events are needed because they allow yourself to step back, humble yourself, and appreciate the things that made you inspired by it in the first place. they allow you to stop finding the negatives or finding a way to criticize and also allow you to become motivated by the things that worked and and have worked instead of trying to solve a puzzle of how to make it work better in the future for the benefit of others or for even for yourself. on the internet it's very easy to do that, because you're observing information constantly and responding to it. it's difficult to just enjoy being immersed in something that's going on because "online" is just a collection of statements and responses to those statements. i think i'm getting unnecessarily heady here, lol

the chances for finding an event close to anybody is more of a reality now than years ago though, i definitely suggest checking some out if anyone has the time and means to do it

edit: read through thread, I don't intend to be crass but I do also see how answering the OP with a different answer is just as frustrating and annoying so I apologize CS! but we did also talk about the topic of "Is the chip scene less supportive," and I think it's good to suggest going to a physical show as a better way to answer that large of a question. so personally I don't think a single person is trying to "be too cool for the internet" or anything like that at all by bringing up going to shows, but it's more of an extension of what 4mat said - the scene is way more physical than it was before because the outlets to express yourself outside of internet forums exist in a larger amount these days. many people didn't intentionally choose to be on forums outside of other options, forums and IRC were almost the only option then

joey you should beta test this out with your genesis!

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LSDJ is still the ultimate tracker to me solely because of what you're saying, Alex. The ability to have each channel using a different value of ticks per line is the defining compositional technique for almost all of the an0va material

and for the record, me "lol"ing before was that this thread is even going down that direction, as if comparing what is harder to do makes any difference at all here

i mean I don't think anybody here is against working for the sake of practicing your craft or even just for the sake of enjoyment but the only thing truly "capitalist" here would be any person expecting to benefit from the work of others without attempting to benefit them in some way as well. there's nothing wrong with pumping out jams and ideas just for the sake of enjoying it and being creative, but that is a process completely defined to the individual - you don't expect others to want to do that with you

we have no actual information on the game itself in the OP. we don't know if it's going to be something just for fun, something that could end up with sponsor support on a game portal, or even just their private website. I don't even think many posts like the OP are intentionally malicious, it's just a mis understanding of both parties. these things should be well-defined before anybody does any work. it's very very simple to have someone donate music for free and then the dev uses the project for future progress - the idea that "exposure" is equal compensation is ridiculous - obviously making a short loop does not compare to the process of "making a game" (though it really could be argued with things like flash templates, haha) but that doesn't justify the exposure, aka "a good word of mouth to other people," as actual payment and respect

say you're a guitarist and you got your new strings replaced on your guitar by a local music store - you wouldn't say "thanks I can't pay you but I'll tell other musicians you did a good job," you'd give him like $5 or something - a small amount of work is still work and should be treated as such not just to benefit the workers, but to also make the contractors look like they actually know what they're doing. it's just professional respect

I "yelp 'nospec" because artists have a right to understand how the majority of these kinds of things play out and make the decision for themselves, in reality it's probably not going to stop Artist Y from taking this deal in the long run whatsoever