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(15 replies, posted in Atari)

It's just occured to me: the 4021 used in the NES controller has a data output - pin 3.

So you could get 2-way comms between NES and 2600. Or NES and ..........

Any bright ideas, folks?

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(16 replies, posted in Trading Post)

Hi someonesomewhere,

Have a quick look at the rules for selling:

http://chipmusic.org/forums/topic/4040/ … ost-rules/

Indicate prices on items you are selling.  If you are trying to auction it off put it on ebay and put a link to the sale here.

Hope you sell it. Nice GB.

Hi there Mateusz,

Comptroller wrote:

I only moved to Edinburgh about 4 months ago myself (from Aberdeen originally) but I can help with a few things...

I'm off to Aberdeen to visit friends at the end of the month. Never been before.

Edinburgh is lovely.

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(15 replies, posted in Atari)

little-scale wrote:

You could also run 2 x Synthcarts from one power adaptor, and just plug that in whilst the two Atari's have their power switched to on.

That's a great idea. I think I'll try that (still have 2xSC).

This is a really interesting thread. I might buy another NES.

Screamforme99 wrote:
PULSELOOPER wrote:

got mine from here: http://www.lightinthebox.com/Serial-Fla … 78522.html

the serial cable could be a bit of a pain (not for my good ol' desktop PC), but it is cheap and it works. Shipping was fast too.

Does The GBA flash cart from lightinthebox only have japanese flash software, like ive read that the actual software is in japaneses, any news on that?

I don't know, but judging by the comments on that page it seems there are a lot of English reading happy users (were you saying you wanted it in English? I'm not sure). You could always ask over there.

My EZ-Flash IV has played all the games I put on it.

And you won't find that on Google.

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(17 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Are you using a PSU or batteries? I find using a PSU adds noise.

He happens to mention a mod he's done, and some of you choose to criticise him with morose, useless, cleverer-than-thou dick-headedness. You act like you fucking own chip music! The same smug faces, every time. For fuck's sake, stop being so fucking precious.

Really, some of you should put the toy games machines down. It seems to have affected your development.

Spiteful put-down of someone introducing themself: sign of the fucking times.

Edit: PM'd you with offer.

Frostbyte wrote:

InactiveX: Hmm..a DJ mixer would be interesting. Do they have send/returns on the channels? I really just wanna make sure i get stereo for both gameboys.

I don't know, you'd have to ask a DJ and see what's available. Do you need send and return, or can you pu your effects and stuff in line?

kineticturtle wrote:

Getting audio into your computer - you can survive by just running the output of a mixer (or straight from a gameboy) into the line or mic input on your computer, but it won't get you nearly as far as having some kind of proper A/D. You'll find that the input is easy to overload, the quality doesn't stand up to other recordings, and you may lose bass response that you won't be able to get back with EQ.

I really can't agree with this! Overloading an input is user error, pure and simple. The quality of modern cheap sound hardware is extremely good - you have to spend a lot to get a good deal better. And if bass response is lost irretrievably, then something is very badly wrong with your recording technique anyway.

I agree with your other points though!

Try and decide how many channels you'll need first.

If it's just two Game Boys, and you're on a limited budget (I don't think $200 will get much for a USB mixer + audio interface, but I don't really know much about low-end stuff), one suggestion I have is to consider a DJ's mixer. You can pick them up very cheap*, they have a rudimentary EQ, two stereo channels to play with, rugged design and gigworthy too. Plug one into a laptop and you're good to go, easily enough audio quality for chip.

*At least my local Cash Converters is full of the buggers, now that no-one wants to be a superstar DJ anymore.

infradead wrote:

you'd be wasting your money if you didn't first upgrade you audio interface.  1/8 in is crap pure and simple.

Rouwe wrote:

A USB mixer will still have analog outputs (RCA, 1/4", etc.) while also allowing you to connect to your computer through USB without the noise a standard 1/8" input would have. You don't have to do this, but you said you wanted to get serious about recording.

You'd be right in saying that soundcards with only 1/8" outputs are generally "bells and whistles" cards, but there's nothing intrinsically wrong or bad sounding about 1/8". I'd happily use it for pro work (but only if I had to, 1/4" being the standard) and have done in the past.

Frostbyte wrote:

Does it have a sound difference? Or is it just crap durability?

Rouwe wrote:

It shouldn't sound different unless it's damaged, but from what I've heard the durability isn't good. So, bad durability means it could get damaged easily resulting in degraded sound.

Most likely a pot will fail, a switch will fall off or a fader get scratchy with no fix. They don't last very long.

Behringer have their defenders, and if you want cheap stuff, then you can't beat the price. But the stuff is typically low build quality. The founder, Uri Behringer, has a philosophy of copying existing designs, making them as cheap as possible, and flogging them off at very low prices. If you need more convincing, visit any sound engineering forum (NB not a forum like this, I mean Gearslutz or SOS) and ask about Behri stuff.

If you're on a budget, instead of buying a new Behri, go for a second hand mixer in the ranges I mentioned earlier. They're reliable and built to last, so as long as they work well, will continue to give good service. I'd go for a good second hand mixer over a cheap new one any day.

Re your last question: Any device will add noise. With chip music the noise floor tends to be high (because games consoles are noisy) so this is less of a problem. Any good EQ should be very quiet and have a low noise floor, so you needn't worry until you get into higher fidelity stuff.

I see. Have you bought any of the kit? The 31-band I would consider overkill and would keep it out of the signal chain, although seeing as it's chip, keeping a clean signal path isn't really a concern.

If I were in your shoes I'd look for a small four channel stereo mixer, but I'd avoid Behringer - they're cheaply made and not sturdy, as is reflected in the low prices for their kit. Look for a Tapco or a Mackie or a little Soundcraft Folio.

I think you'd be disappointed with sound-shaping on a 31-band EQ. EQs are primarily designed for shaping frequency curves across the 20Hz-20KHz range, to add a bump here and a dip there, and not really that useful for more "creative" use, if you get what I mean.

I'd put your two GBs into your computer without the EQs. You can easily EQ on the computer anyway with freeware tools. And the computer will give you a whole world of sound-shaping software. Not so easy to do live, though.

bojangle wrote:

You know, before jumping on someone, it is possible he does own the exact same one and asked permission to reuse the picture as there had been interest in the thread.

No jumping on anyone! Just having a giggle. Don't jump on me!