Hey guys,

I've been working on this sample chopping software called BeatCleaver for a while, and I've just releaed a big new update out that adds the #1 most requested feature - Time Stretching! big_smile

(BeatCleaver runs on both Windows and Mac OS X.)

Some of the new features in this release are:

  • Time Stretching - uses a cutting-edge time stretching engine, which is great at preserving musical character in harmonic material as well as transients in drum beats (so everything stays punchy!)

  • Drag Export Mode - you can drag slices right out of BeatCleaver now and into a folder, your desktop, or a DAW.

  • FLAC Audio Support - everybody rips stuff to FLAC these days, so now you can sample and chop from FLAC files. heart

  • Different WAVE export bit depths - you can now save your chops as 8-bit, 16-bit, 24-bit, and 32-bit stereo WAVEs.

For all the gory details, hit up the release announcement on my blog!

What do you think? What would you like to see next in BeatCleaver?

Thanks guys!
Albert

Hey guys, thanks again for all the feedback. I just wanted to follow up with a few updates.

Since the original beta release (when we had this discussion), I've made the following changes:
- Improved the latency on Windows quite a bit, things should be more responsive. My goal is that you shouldn't have to worry about quantization until you get to the DAW stage. smile
- Added external recording from mics and whatever else you can plug in to your computer. (eg. record your synth or beatbox into your mic)
- Added some way better instruments (two new pianos, plus an electric piano, cello, glockenspiel, generally nice sounding things) smile - http://soundcloud.com/oscillicious/new- … coming-for
- Lots of general polish to the feel of the application - new icon, better handling of projects, etc.
- Better visualization in the loop recorder
- REAPER MIDI export heart
- I'm also toying around with changing some of the graphics up, for better or worse..

Ant1: I agree - the process can have a really big influence on the music you end up making. One of the advantages of SongStarter is that you can iterate pretty quickly on your ideas or use that workflow to try to whittle down a random jam into something that sounds good. No grand ideas necessary. smile You raised a lot of good points though - maybe I'll end up spinning it off into a couple of different apps with much tighter focuses (eg. a live performance looper and a simpler designed-to-be-a-toy app, etc. Definitely good food for thought!)

Anyways, there's a couple of bugfixes to push out early this week and then I expect a final 1.0 release in the next week as well. All of your feedback has given me a lot to chew on and will continue to shape SongStarter and influence where I take things from here. Thanks again for all the comments guys, and happy jamming!

XyNo: I PMed you and hopefully we can figure this out and get you up and running ASAP!

Aeros: Is an iPad useless to anyone who owns a computer? Why would you buy an iPad when you can wait for your computer to boot up, enter your login password, wait for your desktop to appear, double-click on the Chrome icon, try not to get viruses, and save yourself $600? Anyone who's proficient with a desktop computer can replicate the the iPad with double the functionality...

What I'm trying to say is, SongStarter is a different tool. It's not going to replace your DAW, and it's not trying to. It's a different tool for your toolbelt, for solving a different problem (helping you songwrite, quickly).

It sounds like there's MIDI issues with the beta on Windows, so I'll definitely take a look at that. Thanks for sharing.

Hi guys, thanks for the feedback. I'll respond to as much of it as I can:

XyNo: Which version of Windows are you on and which web browser are you using? (this is the one you downloaded, right? http://www.oscillicious.com/songstarter … -win32.exe  - should be 60.7 MB)

Aeros: SongStarter has full MIDI capabilities on the desktop, and it doesn't lock your creations up like Audiotool. With Audiotool, you're trapped in the cloud. There's no MIDI export as far as I know.  And while SongStarter's interface may be different from anything you've tried before, I think you'll still find it's very easy to use.

Teradaktyle: I think SongStarter offers a better workflow for that initial, creative songwriting part of production than using DAW, and I've made it as easy as possible to move stuff over into your DAW, to make it so it's not convoluting your workflow. It's about adding an extra tool in at the start of your workflow to help you write better music, and I think that's worth an extra drag and drop. Thanks for the comments though and I'll re-evaluate where a mobile app fits into my broader plan.

Saskrotch: If you can spare a moment, would you mind elaborating on what didn't go well when you messed around with it in Chrome? Also, what part of the impression you got from SongStarter made you think it was a toy?

Thanks again guys, it's been insightful to read your comments!

Xuriik wrote:

Awesomesauce. I like it. Simple, to the point.

Need a way to pause the sounds while I'm taking a break.
Need instant export to Reaper.
Need to save as midi.
Need a way to "link" up a few "ideas" to have them play back one after the other.
Need MOAR FEATURES.

I like the interface. It comes with some cool sounds, too. :B

Thanks a ton for the feedback! Ok, I'm starting a separate TODO list just for beta feedback, so I'm writing all of this down. Replies in order:

- Ok, will definitely add a pause button.
- Instant Export to Reaper should already work, though I didn't add a specific menu item for it. Writing it down! Can you try opening one of the other ones, like Ableton, and then dragging the jar out?
- When you save your jam with the desktop version, it actually does already write MIDI! Every time you save, it creates a little "Audio and MIDI" folder for you with all the loops and ideas rendered as WAVE and MIDI files for each idea. I need to figure out a better way to advertise this though. Maybe an explicit "Export" menu?
- Link up as in sequence them then? or playing them simultaneously?

Re: moar features - I really really really want to add external audio input in the next month, so you can record your guitar and synths or whatever and rock out like that. Would you dig that?

This was already super super helpful, thank you so much!

Hey guys,

Here it is!

I finally went ahead and released the public SongStarter beta. I'm just giving it away for free during beta to get as many musicians as possible to play with it and give me feedback (though it does expire). The only thing is, the internet is disturbingly quiet so far. I'm not getting any feedback, which is not a good sign.

So, I'm asking you guys for a favour - If you're bored, grab a copy of SongStarter, and jam around with it.

Is it dumb? Are there like, big design flaws in it that make it not-so-useful for most people? I'd really appreciate your honest opinion, because I'm not getting any feedback so far, and I don't know why. Is the sales pitch on the website offensive or badly written? Does the visual design make it seem like too much of a toy? (What turns you off?)

halp!

Thanks guys,
gify out

Here's some teaser images:

(I'm trying to keep it out of the limelight until the open beta, so no screenshots from me yet. wink)

Hey guys,

I'd like to invite you all to the beta of my next big project, called SongStarter.

There's always been times when I've struggled to write music, but over the years, I've found that the two most productive environments for me are piggy tracker, and just sitting down with my Kaoss Pad and synthesizer and jamming. With piggy tracker, the fact that I'm limited with instrument selection and effects makes me focus on writing a good melody. With my synth and KP3, I'm productive because I'm having fun and able to quickly iterate using the sampler.

But I think there's something more to this. If you want to write music, picking up a real instrument and just jamming out an idea is a great way to work quickly. Most of time though, I find myself just sitting down and either tapping notes out in my DAW or setting everything up so I can record into my DAW with my synth. There's a lot of micromanagement here though - I'm jogging around, hitting record, doing 5 takes until I play the melody right, etc etc... You probably know what I mean. (I hope smile)

I don't really think writing music in a MIDI sequencer is the best way to let your ideas flow and stay creative.

But there should be something in between jamming on an instrument and using a MIDI sequencing. We shouldn't need to sit down at a digital audio "workstation" to write music. The way we interact with music software on a computer should be more like playing an instrument, and the computer shouldn't be this monstrous tool that we have to use. It should be something that more naturally accompanies us.

SongStarter is an attempt to solve this problem.

It gives you a simple environment with a looper where you can jam with some instruments and stack up loops. You can then build "ideas" (collections of loops) and make different variations on them. The workflow is inspired by what I find myself doing in a DAW (layering and layering), but it's way faster in SongStarter. It also comes with batteries included - It gives you a bunch of beats to start off with along with a handful of instruments.

There's no knobs, buses, or effects to distract you. It gives you only what you need to write the kernel of a great song. The idea is to make it as easy as possible to do that initial, creative songwriting in SongStarter, and then allow you to easily MIDI export it into your DAW so you can do the technical stuff and arrangement later.

So with that, I'd like to invite you all to play with the Chrome version of SongStarter!
What you'll need is:
1) Google Chrome
2) A Google account so you can use the Chrome Web Store

If you'd like to try it out, please email me your Google account email address at [email protected], and I'll give you beta access right away.

I'm planning a public open beta in the next 10 days, but I wanted you guys to be the first people to try it. smile I should mention that the the Chrome version is missing the MIDI features that the desktop version has (MIDI export and MIDI keyboard support), but I hope to have the desktop version available before the open beta.

Any feedback or thoughts would be greatly appreciated!

Thanks guys!
Albert

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(798 replies, posted in LittleGPTracker)

Chainsaw, have you tried running piggy with pasuspender, eg. "pasuspender ./lgpt" ?

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egr wrote:

Downloaded the free trial for PC but I get this error when I try to run it:

My bad, that's a really confusing error message. I just changed the installer yesterday to require Vista or greater (sorry!), but I didn't test it. (I had set the installer to require the wrong windows version before because of a typo, whoops.) I assumed the error message would be something human-readable, but apparently I was wrong. smile

I can fix the error message to be clearer, but unfortunately the new libaudiodecoder backend I use for better audio format support needs at least Vista to work. It needs at least Windows 7 to read MP3/M4A on as well. On Vista, BeatCleaver can open WAV and AIFF though, but that's sort of limiting....

Update: Ok, uploading new installers. It should show a slightly better error message now... That's for reporting that egr!

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egr wrote:

This looks really user friendly and cool.  One question: in all the screenshots and videos there is only a mono waveform shown, how many separate channels of audio can BeatCleaver handle?

BeatCleaver handles mono and stereo files. When a stereo file is open, the waveform draws the left/right channels interlaced so it more or less looks the same. (The song at the end of the video is stereo.) Having the stereo waveform drawn like this might sound weird compared to stacking the channels separately, but when you zoom all the way with this new style, it makes it easier to find zero crossings that are in _both_ channels. I hope that makes sense!

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xombiexplox wrote:

Can anybody comment on how well this tool performs? If it can beat Audacity then I'm gonna be all over this!!

+1

What do you guys think, even just from the trial?

I was really hoping to make something that was easier to use than Audacity for sampling. Whether or not I've succeeded .... is up to you! So don't hold back, I need your honest opinions. wink

Thanks guys!

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Hey guys,

I've just released a new version of my beat slicing / sampling tool, BeatCleaver, and I think it might be useful to some of you guys here.

Edit: Wow, that was fast! The two free copies have now been given away to Akira and VCMG for replying first.

In a nutshell, BeatCleaver might be useful to chiptune artists in a few situations:

1) If you're still using Audacity for cutting stuff up, you know how frustrating the UI can be. Navigation and previewing loops is way easier in BeatCleaver.

2) If you've written a song and you want to resequence it live, you can do a multi-track export from your DAW/tracker/etc and then slice up the tracks every X bars with BeatCleaver. I used to write stuff in energyXT2 and there was no sane way to export my tracks so I could remix them live in littlegptracker. Now there is!

3) It's not too shabby for finding really short loops to use as oscillator sounds...

4) If you're DJing live with Mixxx or Traktor, you can grab loops from chiptune songs and use them in your sampler decks.

The new version adds support for MP3/M4A formats, nice fluid zooming, and an "Advanced Slicing" menu that lets you slice by beats or bars as I mentioned in #2 above.

I hope this tool is useful for some of you guys here! If you're interested in it, there's a free trial version available on the site, or you can buy the full thing for $15 USD / €13 / £10.

Thanks guys, and if you have any feature suggestions or feedback, please let me know! (You can post here or email me directly at [email protected])

gify!

Gonna try to come \o/

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(798 replies, posted in LittleGPTracker)

I usually spend a few minutes tweaking the (loop) end point for my samples to get rid of the clicking. When you're messing around with the end point, sometimes you can get cool distortion sounds that can be useful too. smile