LGPT/Piggy Tracker FAQ (Page 1) - LittleGPTracker - Forums

1 Dec 10, 2012 2:56 pm

Lazerbeat

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Pig lovers everywhere, we now have our own forum! To celebrate an FAQ and a Sticky

About

› what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

‹ what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

LittleGPTracker (a.k.a 'The piggy') is a music tracker optimised to run on portable game consoles.

Compatibility

› What platforms does piggy run on?

‹ What platforms does piggy run on?

It is currently running on Game Park's GP2x & Caanoo, PSP, Dingoo, Windows, Mac OSX (intel/ppc) & Linux (Debian).

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

The tl;dr version of the question is, it is a very close run thing, all the different options run piggy pretty well, they are all in 80 to 150 usd range and are all now fairly easy to get up and running (if you have XP for opendingux). If you want Midi out, get a GP2x, if you want a larger comfortable unit with a big screen get a PSP, if you want something which is ultra portable with a really long battery life, get a Dingoo.

More detailed version :

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

Pros
- PSP3000 Still in production.
- Sleep mode.
- Clean audio output.
- Large Screen, It really is rather lovely.
- Easy access to memory stick as PSP functions as USB mass storage.
- Easy to find,
- Very comfortable to use
Cons
- Needs Customer Firmware to install custom firmware before LPGT will work
- Larger and heavier than other options.
- Fairly short battery life, especially if you get an older model.
- No Midi out.
- Uses Sony Memory Sticks which are a shade more expensive.
- Headphone jack in a mildly annoying place (bottom left).
- PSP 1000 doesn't have TV out and has 32mb of RAM vs 64mb for PSP2000 and above.

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

Pros
- only hand held with MIDI OUT
- Uses standard AA batteries,
- Doesn't need custom firmware to get LGPT running, just unzip and go.
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Sensibly placed headphone jack on the back of the unit.
Cons
- Slow boot time
- Seems to go through batteries quickly.
- Increasingly hard to track down.
- Headphone jack is too small for a lot of cables.
- Thumbstick is very much a personal taste thing, I don't like it much, some people swear by it.

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

Pros
- GBMicroish formfactor, literally pocket size and bad ass.
- Charges via standard Mini USB jack
- very long battery life
- Sleep mode via Open Dingux
- Swap/paging file virtual RAM allowed in dingux, so 512MB of RAM possible
Cons
- Requires custom firmware to install LGPT
- Uses MiniSD (weird middle size SD card), minor con but worth bearing in mind.
- By far the least comfortable to use (bleo is a robot and has square hands so it doesn't bother him).
- Open dingux can be a huge pain to install (formatting the SD card correctly is not easy without XP).
- Possible slightly dodgy build quality on later models?

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

Pros
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Very easy to get running.
- Comfortable to use.
Cons
- Thumbstick isnt very strong (dropped my unit once and it broke) and as far as I can see it isn't a replaceable part.

› Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

‹ Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

The A-320 and the A-330 run Dingux / Open Dingux. The A-330e, the A-360 the A-380 don't. Other name / number variants of Dingoo almost certainly won't run Dingux / OpenDingux.

Files

› Where can I download piggy tracker?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker?

You can download LGPT here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

You can download LGPT musics here.

› Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

You can download LGPT project files here.

Documentation

› Is there a changelog for Piggy?

‹ Is there a changelog for Piggy?

Yep! It is here.

› Where can I find the manual?

‹ Where can I find the manual?

The manual is here.

› where is the Piggy wiki?

‹ where is the Piggy wiki?

That would be here.

Network

› where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

‹ where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

This forum is a good place. There is also a mailing list and an IRC channel at #hexawe on esper.net

› Is Piggy on Twitter?

‹ Is Piggy on Twitter?

Yep!

› Is Piggy on Facebook?

‹ Is Piggy on Facebook?

Yep!

More information to come!

Last edited by Lazerbeat (Dec 11, 2012 1:14 am)

2 Dec 10, 2012 3:44 pm

Subway Sonicbeat

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Best sub-forum ever.

3 Dec 10, 2012 6:41 pm

herr_prof

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Dont Forget the WIKI:
http://wiki.littlegptracker.com/doku.php

4 Dec 10, 2012 6:52 pm

SketchMan3

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Sweet as! btw You have "what does piggy run on?" twice

Last edited by SketchMan3 (Dec 10, 2012 6:53 pm)

5 Dec 10, 2012 7:39 pm

egr

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Yussssssszz!!

6 Dec 20, 2012 5:00 am

Lazerbeat

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I was going to add another question to the FAQ but I am sure I have missed some details or could explain points better. Feel free to chime in!

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

The tl;dr version of the question is, it is a very close run thing, all the different options run piggy pretty well, they are all in 80 to 150 usd range and are all now fairly easy to get up and running (if you have XP for opendingux). If you want Midi out, get a GP2x, if you want a larger comfortable unit with a big screen get a PSP, if you want something which is ultra portable with a really long battery life, get a Dingoo.

More detailed version :

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

Pros
- PSP3000 Still in production.
- Sleep mode.
- Clean audio output.
- Large Screen, It really is rather lovely.
- Easy access to memory stick as PSP functions as USB mass storage.
- Easy to find,
- Very comfortable to use
Cons
- Needs Customer Firmware to install custom firmware before LPGT will work
- Larger and heavier than other options.
- Fairly short battery life, especially if you get an older model.
- No Midi out.
- Uses Sony Memory Sticks which are a shade more expensive.
- Headphone jack in a mildly annoying place (bottom left).
- PSP 1000 doesn't have TV out and has 32mb of RAM vs 64mb for PSP2000 and above.

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

Pros
- only hand held with MIDI OUT
- Uses standard AA batteries,
- Doesn't need custom firmware to get LGPT running, just unzip and go.
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Sensibly placed headphone jack on the back of the unit.
Cons
- Slow boot time
- Seems to go through batteries quickly.
- Increasingly hard to track down.
- Headphone jack is too small for a lot of cables.
- Thumbstick is very much a personal taste thing, I don't like it much, some people swear by it.

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

Pros
- GBMicroish formfactor, literally pocket size and bad ass.
- Charges via standard Mini USB jack
- very long battery life
- Sleep mode via Open Dingux
Cons
- Requires custom firmware to install LGPT
- Uses Micro SD (weird middle size SD card), minor con but worth bearing in mind.
- By far the least comfortable to use (bleo is a robot and has square hands so it doesnt bother him).
- Open dingux can be a huge pain to install (formatting the SD card correctly is not easy without XP).
- Possible slightly dodgy build quality on later models?

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

Pros
- Uses standard SD cards.
- Very easy to get running.
- Comfortable to use.
Cons
- Thumbstick isnt very strong (dropped my unit once and it broke) and as far as I can see it isn't a replaceable part.

7 Dec 20, 2012 8:45 am

Mdashdotdashn

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Cons on PSP misses 'you need to crack it'
Dingoo cons misses 'when it locks you need a needle or you'll loose all battery power
First dingoo line has a typo. Throw 'it' instead of is

Otherwise good summary and alltogether excellent idea

8 Dec 20, 2012 1:43 pm

Lazerbeat

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Tokyo, Japan

Cheers marc! Most of that information was dug out out of the huge piggy thread from a post bleo made which I followed up on. Anyone has anything to add to the pros and cons of any particular handheld, let me know!

9 Dec 20, 2012 2:10 pm

otakumode

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Very nice Lazerbeat! Maybe you could be more specific about battery life? My Caanoo lasts about 4 hours. I'd consider 1h to be short, 3-4h to be average and 6+ hours to be good battery life.

10 Dec 20, 2012 2:20 pm

Lazerbeat

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I was totally thinking about including that but it seems to difficult to pin down, especially bearing in mind most of the handhelds are second hand and the PSP has different types of battery. That being said, I would rate them very roughly in terms of longest to shortest

Dingoo - Really long (8 hours plus?)
Caanoo - 3 or 4 hours
PSP - 2 or 3 hours
GP2x - 1 or 2 hours

Would you agree with that? can anyone confirm?

11 Dec 20, 2012 3:03 pm

herr_prof

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psp battery life is way nicer than that, but I dont have one to test. It also has a suspend to ram feature that really saves on reboot time.

12 Dec 20, 2012 3:05 pm

herr_prof

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Also that changelog is way out of date I think.

13 Dec 20, 2012 3:08 pm

Lazerbeat

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Tokyo, Japan

Got an updated one?

14 Dec 27, 2012 4:26 am

mk

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Recommended memory sticks/card brands?

15 Dec 27, 2012 4:13 pm

herr_prof

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The faster the better, and only by from legit retaillers. I like patriot sds and the legit highest end sonys are noticbly faster.

16 Dec 27, 2012 4:19 pm

Domu

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Im getting well over 3 hr with top end duracell rechargable in a gp2x f200 ^^

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1 Dec 10, 2012 2:56 pm

› what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

‹ what is LGPT/Piggy Tracker?

› What platforms does piggy run on?

‹ What platforms does piggy run on?

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

› Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

‹ Which Dingoo variants run Dingux / Open Dingux?

› Where can I download piggy tracker?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker?

› Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker tunes?

› Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

‹ Where can I download piggy tracker project files?

› Is there a changelog for Piggy?

‹ Is there a changelog for Piggy?

› Where can I find the manual?

‹ Where can I find the manual?

› where is the Piggy wiki?

‹ where is the Piggy wiki?

› where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

‹ where can I communicate with other piggy tracker users?

› Is Piggy on Twitter?

‹ Is Piggy on Twitter?

› Is Piggy on Facebook?

‹ Is Piggy on Facebook?

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3 Dec 10, 2012 6:41 pm

4 Dec 10, 2012 6:52 pm

5 Dec 10, 2012 7:39 pm

6 Dec 20, 2012 5:00 am

› Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

‹ Which handheld unit is best for piggy?

› PSP pros/cons

‹ PSP pros/cons

› GP2X pros/cons

‹ GP2X pros/cons

› Dingoo pros/cons

‹ Dingoo pros/cons

› Cannoo pros/cons

‹ Cannoo pros/cons

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