egr
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If I set "crush" to "1" on all my samples in a piggy project has it now become 1-bit music?  What are the differences between using a 1-bit sample in a typical tracker vs using a 1-bit specific tracker?

EDIT: After some further research and debate I've gone ahead and made what I claim is true 1 but sound (if not necessarily music) using LGPT on PSP.  Check out the recording and download the project folder if you dare: http://chipmusic.org/egr/music/1-bit-so … gy-tracker

Actually this is more accurately "voltage spike sound" than 1 bit sound.  When the audio circuit is turned off suddenly from a very high gain there is an audible click and that's what I'm actually manipulating.  However I firmly believe that this still qualifies as 1 bit.

Last edited by egr (Dec 31, 2012 4:36 am)

Xuriik
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I THINK on 1-bit specific trackers all the channels get compressed, and for it to be true 1-bit you'd have to use only one channel in lgpt, along with what you said.

See:

(But I could be wrong)

egr
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Hmmm, I see your point.  Is it true that the audio output of a 1bit tracker is a sound file with bit depth 1?  That sounds obvious but the answer could easily be 'no'.

Edit:  Now that I think about it a little better, the answer has to be 'yes' since 1bit trackers are actually just toggling a beeper or dac between on and off.  You couldn't possibly get more than 1bit out of it.

Last edited by egr (Dec 28, 2012 7:20 pm)

irrlichtproject
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well, the term 1bit music has no clear definition yet. however i'd say true 1bit can only be produced by outputting sound though a 1-bit dac. The main purpose of 1bit trackers isn't to output sound files, btw. The idea is to generate machine code, which in turn generates a bitstream.

also what Xuriik said is correct.

So this is a good opportunity to start a war between true and fake 1bit, huh? wink jk, I always enjoy some good 1bit sounds smile

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So basically youd need to crush the master output of piggy playing 1-3 channels of stuff to be "1bit", to get that cool nasty voice stealing sound of a single dac being abused. Maybe run piggy through a overdrive pedal and sum mono?

4mat
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why not just use a 1-bit tracker?  it's not like there's a lack of them.

herr_prof
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cause there are no portable ones you can whip out of your pocket on the turlet.

irrlichtproject
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that problem is being worked on wink

egr
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4mat wrote:

why not just use a 1-bit tracker?  it's not like there's a lack of them.

This is more of a theoretical question, as in "what would it take to 1bit piggy style".

On the other hand, why not just clap your hands and sing?

walter b. gentle
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herr_prof wrote:

cause there are no portable ones you can whip out of your pocket on the turlet.

does pixitracker 1-bit count. its for ios and android. ive never used it though ive only tried the normal version ( which if i remember said it was 16 bit)

egr
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After some further research and debate I've gone ahead and made what I claim is true 1 but sound (if not necessarily music) using LGPT on PSP.  Check out the recording and download the project folder if you dare: http://chipmusic.org/egr/music/1-bit-so … gy-tracker