YES LET'S DISCUSS THE NATURE OF A TERM THAT WAS DISOWNED EVEN BY THE TWO FUCKING BANDS THAT IT WAS MADE UP FOR
Honestly I'd wish the revivalist kids were reviving the sound of Rites of Spring, Embrace and Moss Icon and not this sort of watered down version that came later. Especially since the OG bands were honest without being whiney, something that seems to be lost to fucking everyone.
As for crying, objectively they're a good band. Nice songwriting, absolutely nothing offensive about their sound, will likely be loved by the New York scene. Subjectively I'm fucking sick of the association of happy-go-lucky bleeps and bloops and 8bit music (Anamanaguchi have brought that to it's pinnacle imo) and I'd love to hear some actually aggressive and crazy bands pop up.