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Hey so I notice a lot of Chip musicians like making entire tracks using only one device at a time, but I've always preferred the sound of recording several layers of sound in a DAW. Personally, the challenge of composing withing the limitations of a single chip is frustrating and the music made this way tends to sound very thin to me.
Does anyone else use traditional DAWs and overdubbing in making chip music?

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Dolby-Z wrote:

Hey so I notice a lot of Chip musicians like making entire tracks using only one device at a time, but I've always preferred the sound of recording several layers of sound in a DAW. Personally, the challenge of composing withing the limitations of a single chip is frustrating and the music made this way tends to sound very thin to me.
Does anyone else use traditional DAWs and overdubbing in making chip music?

Yup. I love the sound of chipmusic, but have always preferred layering up different sounds. My last release was written on LSDJ but then had a drum machine, and some other things added:

https://bowtie.bandcamp.com/album/drouth

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You bring up an interesting point actually. I guess I do prefer the sounds you call thin although I really like to try to use that limited hardware to make tunes that absolutely do not sound like they could be easily dropped in as the backdrop of an actual video game, but in fact sound good in a car audio setting. My problem however (and I bet it's due to honest to goodness ineptitude) is I do not like DAWs. I don't like how they look or feel, but what else is there then? I've heard of Renoise, supposedly a tracker interface with some DAW functionality. Technically though you are correct, layered and thick well produced music definitely requires more than just a few channels. Chiptune, nothin' like it smile

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bitpusher2600 wrote:

I've heard of Renoise, supposedly a tracker interface

Come on man, renoise is a tracker in every sense of the word.

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JaffaCakeMexica wrote:
bitpusher2600 wrote:

My problem...it's due to...ineptitude

"actually"

o.k?

Surely, I'm not going to lie about it. I have never used Renoise I've only seen a few pictures so I don't know squat about, and since I'm not the kind of person that pirates software, I will probably never know unless something hits me one day that makes me believe I need it.

My logo...haha. I guess you're right but what it actually is; it is from a small segment of the TIA chip schematic (Atari 2600.) That console was my first foray into making chip (or creating anything for that matter) back in 2010. Prior to that I was a live DJ at a local club, did a couple others a few times as well. I decided to keep it after I moved on from the 2600, still have that number in my web address too. Just personal/nostalgia crap but now that you've pointed that out, I guess it represents me well because if you knew me in person, you'd figure out pretty quickly I am in fact a d**k.

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you could always try the demo version of renoise... http://www.renoise.com/download
also, it's pretty cheap.. $75 for full version

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renoise is really good, definitely worth the money as well.
the sample editor is also one of the nicest sample editors out there, useful for preparing samples for use in other music programs.

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it's definitely a powerful piece of software.. end.user uses it for his music, which is a great endorsement if you ask me
https://end-user.bandcamp.com/

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I like to use gameboys as individual instruments rather than trying to pump a whole band worth of sound out of that very limited chip. For example, I'll dedicate one gameboy to just drums so i can use all four channels to make the best drum sounds I can and then record another track thats just playing chords, and so on. Also, I usually incorporate drum machines, analog synths, and guitars into the mix to fill it out even more. The only reason I use GameBoys and things like that in my music is that I like the unique tonal characteristics of these devices.

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the bollywood breaks tune enduser..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw

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JaffaCakeMexica wrote:

the bollywood breaks tune enduser..

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=2GKMqi3HmRw

that EP is great, was the first stuff of his i heard... the one time i played a gig with him, i actually ended up doing his visuals because no carrier needed to rest a little since the show ran from 8pm to 6 am

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I don't know much about using DAWs or what plugins do, etc but thanks for the link, I might try playing around with it, can't hurt.

Sorry for slightly jacking your thread for a moment there Dolby-Z. Back to your point, everything you are saying, I agree with you 100%. I rather believe your original point is something that separates more talented 'composers' from simple 'beat makers' like myself. Whole world of difference in overall listening experience certainly.

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i definitely respect the talent of some bollywood singers, enduser added the breaks and made it into a new arrangement  nicely.

Chiranjeevi is pretty awesome, but thats tollywood...from andra pradesh

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=W9mf72vp24E

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=_k4LOoYA1vw

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=lWz7Li4mlKA

chiranjeevi's producer is awesome.

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last off topic from me, but for people into interesting re-use of bollywood stuff, also check out dan the automator and DJ shadow's "Bombay the Hard Way" (i was talking about this with some djs about a decade ago when one of them first recommended "bollywood breaks".. its more of a hip-hop take on bollywood stuff)

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Dolby-Z wrote:

Does anyone else use traditional DAWs and overdubbing in making chip music?

I use Renoise in this way, though when I have moments of self-doubt, I wonder if people think I do it just to be able to post music here and not because I actually wanted to.

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