fedepede04
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Hi lazerbeat.
it was not pointed against you, i think you did a great job smile

it sounded like several had problems making good drums on the opl2/opl3 card.
and also that the it could not, or be difficult to make good drums on the opl2/op3.
there for i had to point out that the only reason, that i think why it is so hard, is because the software is laking.
and I also believe that the most important thing, to make good drums is a good pitch control, on any synth chip.
if you take a chip like the ay8910 or the ym2149, it can only produce a square wave but still you can make some real good drum sound, if you have a good pitch control.

i have just uploaded two more examples to show my point. (i know that the music is not great, this is what i meant with my music laking skill smile) )

in this one i have use my bend routine to make a synth Scrat.  this was made for fun, i uploaded to show that you can make some realy weird sound when changing the freq.

https://rapidshare.com/files/2770168477/Scrat_man.mp3
and this one, has a pretty heavy Bass drum.
https://rapidshare.com/files/2124887900/palltex.mp3

Last edited by fedepede04 (Mar 17, 2012 4:16 pm)

Lazerbeat
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2 more videos up. DR/SL and Feedback/hihats

@fedepede04 interesting stuff!

akira^8GB
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There is the one thing that puzzles me the most about FM and I'd like to learn: those bloody flowcharts of how the synthesis patch is wired up. Can you cover that? With the more operators the better, as 4op is rather simple.

Lazerbeat
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The flow charts absolutely, They aren't THAT hard. 6op it totally possible but I don't have a 6op synth, all mine are 4op, Something for the future....

- edit - Cascating operators confuse me, very very hard to predict. Also yamaha having arbitrary numbering policies for operators depending on the day of the week is confusing.

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fedepede04
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Thanks Lazerbeat

akira^8GB
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Lazerbeat wrote:

6op it totally possible but I don't have a 6op synth, all mine are 4op, Something for the future....

Yeah man forget what I said, all I have is 4op too, so that should do it.
Thanks big_smile

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I find there's usually not much practical reason to use more than 4 operators hooked together. If it's 6-op it's at most 4 operators with 1 carrier, then the remaining 2 as a simple modulator+carrier for an extra layer of sound. This seems to be the case with all the DX7 sounds I've browsed through.

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Well there is always 8x2OP:

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  source files for all my tracks to learn stuff then just let me know.

Ooooo me! PM me!!!

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Just watched part 1 and moving on to part 2. After finishing a track using a similar tracker (DefleMask) this all makes much more sense now. What a great Thursday afternoon.

ant1
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Lazerbeat wrote:

If you look in the manual for the MBFM they call the Macros "wave table sequencing" which I assume it the same thing.

well it is not a hardware feature but software so i am sure it is not exactly the same thing. sadtracker 2 has a wavetable too which works differently (and BETTER) than adtrack2 macro i think.... but it's good to learn to use these tables things because they help a lot with percussion and also to make other sounds!

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ant1 wrote:
Lazerbeat wrote:

If you look in the manual for the MBFM they call the Macros "wave table sequencing" which I assume it the same thing.

well it is not a hardware feature but software so i am sure it is not exactly the same thing. sadtracker 2 has a wavetable too which works differently (and BETTER) than adtrack2 macro i think.... but it's good to learn to use these tables things because they help a lot with percussion and also to make other sounds!

"sadtracker 2"?  Do you myean MadTracker 2 or Pause Records?

akira^8GB
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herr_prof wrote:

Well there is always 8x2OP:

God DAMN IT.

ant1
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egr wrote:
ant1 wrote:

well it is not a hardware feature but software so i am sure it is not exactly the same thing. sadtracker 2 has a wavetable too which works differently (and BETTER) than adtrack2 macro i think.... but it's good to learn to use these tables things because they help a lot with percussion and also to make other sounds!

"sadtracker 2"?  Do you myean MadTracker 2 or Pause Records?

i mean  "SURPRISE! ADLIB TRACKER 2" which is know as SADTRACKER or SADT and creates .SA2 Modules

egr
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ant1 wrote:
egr wrote:

"sadtracker 2"?  Do you myean MadTracker 2 or Pause Records?

i mean  "SURPRISE! ADLIB TRACKER 2" which is know as SADTRACKER or SADT and creates .SA2 Modules

Ah!  Thanks!

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herr_prof wrote:

Well there is always 8x2OP:

That could be useful to make string sections, choirs or anything else that relies on unison for its characteristics. Although I think just 3x 2op would be enough for chiptune purposes (and the same results have already been achieved at the expense of more channels).