Imaginary wrote:

I was having some pretty serious trouble trying to get the vertical lines out of a screen and noticed some marking on the ribbon cable. I suspect the damage is more or less irreparable. Maybe take a closer look at your ribbon cable and see if you can spot any imperfections? (How the hell does an interior component get damaged like that anyway?)

Disassembling it and looking on the underside of the lcd there is a bit of darkness where the cable connected that may or may not be related. :-/

Alpine wrote:
baudtack wrote:

How is it making money "off of them" if it's your work? The idea that you should some how own the vibrations of the air is crazy to me. Recordings? Yes. Written scores? Yes. If you say that no one can make a cover without my permission, where does it end? What about a chord progression that I write? Do you owe me money for that?

I mean qpb's already summed up what I was going to say, but I'll say it anyway. There's a difference between using a chord progression and releasing something that someone else has made using that chord progression. We all know that the dude from Oasis gets hella narked about anyone using the same progression, but he can't do anything about it. However, if I was going to do a cover of Wonderwall and sell it for money, then he has every right to be angry. It's fine to use elements of someone else's music in your own, but at least do something creative with it, Greenday's Basket Case is one of my favourite songs, and even though the chord progression is pretty much ripped straight from Pachelbel's Canon, there's enough of a difference in the tracks to say that it isn't a cover or remix.

Having a right to be angry, which I disagree that he does frankly, isn't the same as should be able to hold copyright on. I mean chord progressions as ridiculous extreme.

The rational behind behind copyright is to give a content creator limited term rights over a work so that they are incentivized monetarily  to create the work in the first place, but still limited so that society as a whole can benefit from building off their work. Without getting into the insanity that is the infinitely renewable copyright (I'm looking at you Mickey and George Lucas), having a copyright over recordings does exactly that thing. Going beyond that to have the copyright include the song itself goes far beyond, imho, the point of copyright law. It in fact, does some of the opposite by stiffing the creativity of others. Unless you have money, which I suppose is about par for the course.

EDIT: To address what you said about doing something creative, I completely agree. I just don't think we should have to legislate that. There is a chiptune artist that I won't mention, that kind of bugs me because the covers they create are just flat xerox's of the original songs. I don't like that. I just don't think they should be stopped from doing that because they lack the funds to pay for it.

jefftheworld wrote:

Covers don't require permission. You simply need to apply in advance for a compulsory cover license and pay your royalties as required. The original artist might hate it but they have no choice in the matter.

You're correct. My intent was "owe me money" or "owe the licence holder money" Thanks for the clarification.

qb wrote:
baudtack wrote:

How is it making money "off of them" if it's your work? The idea that you should some how own the vibrations of the air is crazy to me. Recordings? Yes. Written scores? Yes. If you say that no one can make a cover without my permission, where does it end? What about a chord progression that I write? Do you owe me money for that?

Your argument is incomprehensible because it can apply to virtually anything. By your logic, nobody owns anything, not even themselves because fundamentally we don't really ever create anything.

I'm not sure how you extrapolate "no one owns anything"  from me explicitly saying that it's reasonable to copyright recordings and scores but not vibrations in the air, which is essentially what you hold a copyright on for songs. Regardless, I think we're probably done here.

e.s.c. wrote:

actually, in some cases a chord progression can be enough to constitute plagarism (or bassline, see the Vanilla Ice/Queen situation)

Yes. More evidence in my opinion of the insanity of copyright law. To be clear, I'm in favor of copyright laws. Just not what is currently the US law on the subject.

Alpine wrote:
herr_prof wrote:

Some artist might not be happy you are giving them away for free either.

true, but they'd be happier than if you were making money off of them

How is it making money "off of them" if it's your work? The idea that you should some how own the vibrations of the air is crazy to me. Recordings? Yes. Written scores? Yes. If you say that no one can make a cover without my permission, where does it end? What about a chord progression that I write? Do you owe me money for that?

qb wrote:

Well, you should expect most artists to mind if you remix or cover their work and make money out of it, and as long as they mind it you could argue that it is morally wrong.

Most of you were angry when Timbaland ripped off Janne Suni's song "Acidjazzed Evening" (which was essentially a remix) and now you're telling me that selling remixes\covers is OK even if you don't ask for permission? I know Janne wasn't credited as the original artist but I am almost certain that he would have still sued Timbaland for remixing and selling his song even if Timbaland had credited him. The only difference here is that chiptune artists don't tend to make thousands of dollars but that doesn't negate the fact that a lot of artists are going to be offended by your complete lack of consideration for their feelings.

Honestly, i have no idea what you're talking about here.

Hrm. I thought we were talking about it being some how morally or ethically wrong not legally problematic.


After reading more about US copyright law, I see the problem.

qb wrote:

^ haha

All I want to say is this: don't be a dick by selling these covers\remixes you're making. I've seen that many chiptune musicians and even labels do this and I think it is a contemptible thing to do. My first release is going to be a compilation of remixes and covers, but it will be completely free as it should be.

Sorry, but why is this wrong? It's your work right? So what makes it wrong to sell? Musicians are constantly playing of each other. Should Bach be thought less of because he took Vivaldi's Grosso Mogul violin concerto and transcribed it for solo organ? This line of reasoning just makes no sense to me at all.

ChipCzuk wrote:

I have a load of boards with working screens that I've got waiting to be back-lit and modded. I was thinking it wouldn't cost much to get over over to you with UK local postage.

It sounds like you've been unlucky, I've bought tens of good gameboys on eBay cheap.

Nice! Yeah would probably be expensive to get shipped to the states. Thanks though. Do you have anything in particular you're watching out for to avoid the crap ones? Two of the three I've gotten developed horizontal lines after I've gotten them. The one i'm using now is pink and only has one line so it's more annoying but still.

Nope. The US. Why?

Ghffh I'll probably give up on eBay for now and buy one from nonelectronics or someone :-(

Okay. I've tried to fix this twice now for about 30 minutes each time with my iron on 300C with a bevel tip so that it makes as much contact as possible. Many lines flicker but the one in question just stays dead. Do I just keep trying? Every tutorial I've seen this gets fixed in about a minute.

desperatenerd wrote:

The first time I tried it, it happened to me too.
The key is to be patient, try with gentle vertical strokes along the pin, it can take quite a long time.

Oookay. I'll give it another go but I worked on it for quite a while before. I'm kind of wondering if the problem is somewhere else.

Ok. So far I'm 0 for 2 on modding dmgs. I keep getting ones with dead horizontal lines. Such tears. So fail.

So I get one with a near perfect screen. Just one dead... vertical line. I'm pretty excited as EVERYONE says these are totally fixable right! And SUPER easy to fix!

I fire up my trusty soldering iron and get to work!


Only it doesn't work. Lines around the dead one start to flicker so I can tell the solder is melting and yet... the dead one refuses to come back. Am I really now 0 for 3? Three strikes and I'm out? :-(

Done. I CC'd you on a message to them :-)