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(10 replies, posted in General Discussion)

kineticturtle wrote:

Why would it be any different for chip musicians than for any other kind of musician?

Exactly.
This is for musicians. It has nothing to do with what type of music you make.
I for one don't see any con, unless you have to pay for memberships (some of them charge for membership, some don't)

The most immediate pro is that you get easy money. Even if little, it could help, you never know.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

oliver wrote:

You can set the throttling with -midi <value> where <value> should be roughly between 20 and 50. Default is 26.

The output was:

C:\Users\Akira\User Applications>nlmidi03 - MIDI 35

nanoloop MIDI opened for input

nanoloop MIDI opened for output

Did it work?

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

trash80 wrote:
akira^8GB wrote:

Does it do this even when you use the pencil? I Mean, if there's a straight line with no changes, does it still send out the same message over and over?

Nope. It's just because you are drawing a floating point line across values of a 7 or 14bit resolution. So rounded down it would take 14.124 14.125 into 14 14. etc.

Ah, now that makes perfect sense. Ableton is retarded, then. Shouldn't act that way when sending MIDI.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

trash80 wrote:
akira^8GB wrote:

Clearly not, if you hear the audio I posted of the same project: http://kikencorp.com/stuff/mGB_test_01_Rendered.mp3 (jump to 0:59 for the fun)

HAHAHA, its drunk!

Drunk on MIDI xD

Thanks for the update OIiver, will test it ASAP.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

trash80 wrote:

I can hear small amounts of fuckup with the pitchbends though, which goes into what I was saying. Ableton sends shit like 45 45 45 45 45 45 45 ... 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 46 .... 47 47 47 47 47 47 47 47  ... [...] as oppose to just those changed values once. hehe.

Does it do this even when you use the pencil? I Mean, if there's a straight line with no changes, does it still send out the same message over and over?

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

trash80 wrote:
akira^8GB wrote:

I saw the video, this demonstrates arduinoboy works fine, as I expected. Thanks for that.

Oh nice, so the problem isnt with mGB?

Clearly not, if you hear the audio I posted of the same project: http://kikencorp.com/stuff/mGB_test_01_Rendered.mp3 (jump to 0:59 for the fun)
One thing is small fuck ups (I notice it in the noise channel too), and one thing is this tongue
Thanks for these tests and insight on mGB, Tim.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

trash80 wrote:
akira^8GB wrote:

How to achieve pitch bending then? This is the only way it works.

No it's not, my example there is a pitchbend, hit cmd+b to switch modes for drawing. or ctrl+b on windows. though your example worked fine on my arduinoboy.

No, I mean, I know how to use the Ctrl+B method, but when I used it, it didn't progressively bend from one note to the other, it just jumped.

I saw the video, this demonstrates arduinoboy works fine, as I expected. Thanks for that.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

Hey Tim,

trash80 wrote:

1. Do not draw lines or slopes in Ableton or other programs. At least in Ableton, CCs of the same value will be sent a million times over, flooding MIDI to mGB. Use the pencel tool instead or make a max4live MIDI effect to filter CCs. Example:


bad.

How to achieve pitch bending then? This is the only way it works.

HOLY SH..........
Chema, a ver si me llevan así... tongue

Subway Sonicbeat wrote:

It is so awful that there's a story where a couple had to pay royalties for all the music played at their wedding.

Despite me agreeing that these entities suck in South America, I am afraid to say that yes, if the wedding was done in a venue, they had to clear up the royalties. But this is the venue's duty, not the couple's.

boomlinde wrote:

Generally speaking (not just for CC-NC type licenses), a royalty collecting agency is only legally eligible to collect money for their clients, i.e. people or labels who have registered with them and given them the right to license their music. If you are not connected to a collection agency, at least by US law, royalties have to be sent either directly to you or (if the licensee hasn't been able to contact the proprietor after a substantial effort) to the copyright office. This is how compulsory licensing works. No private organization is eligible to collect money in your name unless you explicitly granted them that right!

Here's the catch. I think these laws differ depending on the country and whatever applies to the US doesn't necessarily apply to another country. In Argentina, for example, and this is a big case of drama, the entity, SADAIC, collects money anyway. If you don't go and get it from them, they keep it. They are assholes like that.

Also, places like radios, pay a "blanket" fee to these associations, they get a deal cut to them to lower costs. So I think if any of these entities that pay a blanket fee to an association is one that plays your tune, that association is collecting money for you without you even noticing.

Take something like RAdio 1's "new DJs' or something. Kids send tracks in for playing. They are probably not associated to any royalty association. However Radio 1 pays a blanket fee to whatever entity works in the UK.

For all I know, since I have SELDOM filled up playlist charts at shows I played, many collection companies have money that belongs to me. And since my association is a bit weird (I am in the middle of changing it), I get nothing.

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

herr_prof wrote:

Hey Akira - Maybe you should post your test project and we can test the sequencing on a real aboy and see if it has the same problems.

Great idea.
Please, someone with an arduinoBoy test this:

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

nitro2k01 wrote:

Remind me to do a GB side utility which measures the exact timings the GB receives.

Yes, please

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(234 replies, posted in Nintendo Handhelds)

oliver wrote:

I think the problem lies within mGB, it is simply not fast enough to process a full MIDI stream. When the throttling is too fast, mGB misses notes, when it's too slow, there will be jitter. You can only try to optimise the MIDI output as described above and then find the fastest rate with the throttling parameter at which mGB works reliably for you. I thought I had found this optimum with the preset throttling rate, but it turned out that it's slightly too fast for some setups.

I'm really sorry, but I don't think mGB is at fault. Why would Trash 80 add a MIDI specification where you can modify all those parameters without the software supporting it at full speed? I know you can brick a DMG with certain things, I've done it on LSDJ, but simple operations like using two pitch bends? Really?

Using an Arduinoboy, commands like pitch bend or volume are totally supported. Then there are the commands to change instrument parameters which you should be able to change in real time as well. And then even if I don't use these things at all, the system is choking on notes.

You wouldn't be able to do this at all if mGB was at fault

When can we expect to get fixed binaries for Windows and OSX already that support throttling tweaking so I can use the device as intended and advertised?

Pushpin runs only on Color Gameboy, which has a clock speed DOUBLE that of a DMG. DMGs are what most people use.

boomlinde wrote:

I suggest reading up on the legal code, Akira: http://creativecommons.org/licenses/by- … /legalcode. The "to Share" (license grant) part is in section 3, but you only have those rights within the restrictions of section 4, where 4 b is especially interesting to this case:

You may not exercise any of the rights granted to You in Section 3 above in any manner that is primarily intended for or directed toward commercial advantage or private monetary compensation.

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Hmm, after I posted about the CC license, I realized it has a clause that says you should ask for permission for commercial work.
But as I saw it, DI sells a service and not the music. You could be right on this though. I also thought "right to transmit" includes this.

In any case what I was saying is that yes, people SHOULD get paid and that DI is surely already paying to the entity it needs to pay and the author only needs to collect and if you don't collect, it's your fault. They are not going to come knock at your door and give you money, you need to tell your entity where to look for it. So if you have music in DI.FM and you are not getting money, talk to your royalty agency and tell them your music is there, they should do the rest. I know what you mean with "if you are not registered to a collection company", but I am afraid the industry does not work like that and if you want the royalties, you need to be signed up. The way the system works is debatable but if someoone is worried about where your shit gets played commercially, you should be signed up to this. Also when you perform, you collect royalties. In my opinion, it's a good thing to do.

You can get royalties for "Airplay" (including internet radio) if you are registered with ASCAP or some such entity in whatever country and your music is registered with them and as long as the website in question is properly registered, which it should if they offer a premium service.

So if you are not getting paid, only you are to blame.

This is for USA, for example:

Songs released for free or by CC have been released with listening and re-distribution permits already.
Example license: 8bitpeoples' cc-by-nc-nd says:

You are free:
to Share — to copy, distribute and transmit the work

As such, they are not breaking any law or "internet code", whatever that might be. Spotify and others, charge for a service, not for the music and, if they are not an illegal company, they ARE paying royalty money to whatever entity that needs to be paid.


This thread exactly rep[resents what I meant about chip music "theft paranoia" and why it embarrasses me. It would be great if people understood how the music business works before accusing like this.