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make music - dont worry about it - have fun

last i checked - that's the idea behind wikipedia.  to be able to edit stuff.

what was there before made it sound like if you used samples then you were not creating chip music.

ok let me put it into contex.  I started THIS thread to create a discussion, to open the debate, and to create a better article on wikipedia.  Not to argue with 8GB or to become the president of chiptune.  you are missing the point here.

why don't we start posting definitions and bounce them off eachother instead of debating whether we should or should not do this?

yeah...  how many years?  which chip?  ...everything dies dude.  especially electronic devices.

how many people in this forum keep their room clean?  humans just busted a fucking hole in the earth that's killing entire eco-systems.  i don't have as much faith as you.  you can't deny that the original chips will not get more rare as time goes on.

yeah - i'm just worried about what people are seeing represented up there.  it's so inaccurate, and i think everyone here can agree that the article is sort of a mess - even with the things i put in there.

why not?  you wanna let academics define that shit - they usually send music genres into a catatonic state with the neat little edges and packages.  when was the last time i read an art history book and was like - "right on!  fuck yeah!"   ...um never.  Mile's Davis' autobiography is a much more accurate view into the jazz scene than some academic's book.  I think you're wrong - we should not let other people (who dont understand the music) define it for us.  there is great danger in that.   Should we let the media define it for us?  NO FUCKING WAY!

If Chip Music is a set of restrictions... count me out.

Where's the part in this definition that focuses on harmony and notes - i think the whole fucking problem is people are looking at the tool in front of them and trying to legitimize that paticular object as authentic or cool or something.  Most likely a gameboy... and we're not focused on the harmonies being produced and where they come from or the lineage that's led to this point.

In my talk at H.O.P.E i talked about Chip Music's cross-genre compatibility.  maybe thats the problem.  Maybe there really is no chip music.  Maybe we're just tracking other styles of music - so really chip music is sort of like a funnel or a filter where we shit out other genres like some disposable waste (presented in a certain kbps).

Maybe we should break the definition down into a couple different things:  TEXTURE, HARMONY, RHYTHM, HISTORY, TOOLS  ...shit like that.  might make more sense than like immediately talking about the tools. The actual sound is more important than whatever hipster gadget we decided to use or create that particular day.

This stuff is fun to talk about.  I enjoy hearing what you guys say.

Fakebit (for me) is like an elitist calling card - people should stop using it.  That term in effect cheapens the term Chip Music or 8bit, and in general saying "fakebit" too noobs provides a rigid atmosphere for them to compose in because they feel like they have to stay away from the certain ideas that actually might make them grow as a musician.  Why do we have to stay away from certain ideas?  At one point i was not ready to use a tracker - i didnt like it - i couldnt be creative on it.  I had people saying my shit was not even chip music.  It hurt and i did not like it.  I wanted to be included not excluded.  People are choosing to not write chip music because they can't grasp technical details.  I see this as a problem.  Its sort of depressing because this music is supposed to be fun.    Fuck - music in general is supposed to be fun.  I think people should think before they use that term.  Chipmusic can be many things.

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