Hey, just wondering.. Did anything ever come of this? It looks like the PM I sent was never read. Not a problem if you went with someone else (especially if it was an0va!), but I just remembered this this morning and was curious about it. Thanks!

I felt jawnored.

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"Jawn of the Dead" - Dan Davis

herr_prof wrote:

Since you been jawn.

Just when I thought we were running low on good jawn-related jawns..

Also sent a private message. an0va don't hate me sad

I will be listening to the streeeeeeeeeeam, so please link me when that's available. Shout-outs not necessary but much appreciated.

Of course there are many, many examples of this happening all the time, and many examples (perhaps even the majority) of people getting away with it. But that doesn't make it OK, and that shouldn't mean someone should just throw in the towel. Sorry if that sounds idealistic, but I think when someone is getting paid to write music, the audience deserves hard, original efforts. I agree that Anamanaguchi should be very careful before they do anything -- as I said, it all comes down to how much money and resources they have for this, and none of us can tell them how to proceed. Maybe they'll decide to do nothing. But off the top of my head I can think of a few examples of someone saying "Hey, that sounds like my song!" and either winning or coming to some kind of settlement (The Flaming Lips' "Fight Test" and Cat Stevens' "Father and Son," the theme from "Ghostbusters" and Huey Lewis's "I Want a New Drug," that stupid Verve song that ripped off the Rolling Stones or whatever)... So good luck to them with whatever they decide to do.

Normally I don't get too wrapped up in things like this, but as I said before, lazy/irresponsible songwriting and/or outright theft drives me freaking crazy. It all comes down to how much time/money/resources/etc. the band and its management really does have to fight this. Now I know I also said before something like "there's no argument that they're not the same" or "they're pretty much exactly the same" and all right, maybe that is an exaggeration. As a whole, once you really get into the song after the first few measures, the Disney song is not a carbon copy, no. All that being said, I think the parts that are too close for comfort are absolutely worth getting upset over. I would say some of the subtle production/composition choices are just way too sophisticated to deserve to be considered "original." After about the first five seconds or so, yes, the song is just pretty much heavily inspired -- but those five seconds are so closely derivative that, if it were my music, I'd be beyond livid. Go back and listen to those first few measures with headphones. The way the melody comes in after the second beat, the rhythm of that pattern, the way the harmony comes in in the 2nd measure, the way that harmony is panned.. It's THE SAME in both. I think both songs even modulate to the same relative chord after that intro (yes, they are each in a different key, but you can't just play "Happy Birthday" in a different key and not have to pay to use it in your movie). I don't know if judges/lawyers care about those kinds of technical similarities but that's a lot more than "It FEELS like an Anamanaguchi song" or "They stole our chord progression." If it were me, I could not just let this go.

I mean, even little production decisions are exactly the same. The panning harmony part that comes in after about 2 seconds in both songs.. panned in both videos. Could not be a coincidence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oTGh04IAwmc is the song it rips off of. And I have to admit, at first I thought it was derivative but not necessarily actual THEFT. Then I listened to that song again and there's really no arguing. I'm not out to defend anyone here, because there are few things that bother me more than lazy songwriting, but what probably happened was, they hired some fancy hot-shot trusted musician and asked him or her to make something that sounded "all nintendo-y and stuff!" He either knew of Anamanaguchi and did something that was just way too close to one of their songs by accident, or came across it and figured no one would ever notice and his big-wig Disney bosses would never do any research because who makes music that sounds like that anyway if not for some novel app, right?!?

EDIT: No arguing that it's NOT a blatant ripoff, I mean. Someone should own up to this and admit they stole it, but I blame the composer more than clueless people at Disney.

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Can't freaking wait for this. I'm officially Virginian and I'ma ROCK this jawn.*


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I think I'd be much better at reading if I didn't have a good ear (if I may say so). For me, it's always been so much more organic, productive and, frankly, easier to rely on just listening and learning/reacting. If I wasn't able to do that, I'd force myself to read better but to be honest, so far I've been able to get away with it this way smile

I have played bass in orchestras and such where I had to read, but usually it ends up working out that I'll study and learn the music on my own time and basically memorize or just do what feels right during the performance, using the printed music as kind of just a guide in case something goes horribly wrong. In general I'm good (or at least I used to be) at recognizing notes but horrible at rhythms.

Yo, I loved this. Thanks to everyone who was there, and if Babycastles ever reads this, thank YOU for being creative, inspiring and open-minded.

Come on people. I'm getting my ass up there from Virginia, you can get your ass here from Brooklyn or wherever else you live in the NYC area. SEE YOU THERE.