As a way to "downvote" a thread that's gone to shit? I think that will lose effectiveness when the troll responds.
98 Apr 27, 2016 11:22 am
Re: What headphones are you using? (33 replies, posted in Other Hardware)
I recently picked up Grado open-backs in all their retro chunkiness. The cord and plug are heavy and I worry that it will tend to bend up weaker jacks, otherwise they do what I need very well.
They replace a pair of Sony things I think were bought in a Walmart and had a bad dip at 4k.
99 Apr 27, 2016 11:19 am
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
MaxDolensky wrote:
Sad, we have to wait a week to jump down someone's throat.
To give him some credit, his history looks pretty normal before the graveyard thread.
If you have any questions, there are more than a few people able to answer them here, within reason of course.
101 Apr 27, 2016 1:38 am
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
JaffaCakeMexica wrote:
I'm a big expert from a university with a big university music theory book?
You didn't understand the page you referenced. In the first figure on that page are the triads spelled over the C major scale, with their roman numerals by degree just like I explained:
I - C major
ii - D minor
iii - E minor
IV - F major
V - G major
vi - A minor
viiº - B diminished
As you can see, caps represent major triads, lowers represent minor.
The most important truth however, and the lesson I spent a little too much energy ignoring in school, is that all the knowledge in the world isn't helpful if you aren't sociable enough to have other people talking about and sharing the music you're making.
Also the world needs Prince memes.
102 Apr 27, 2016 1:06 am
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
e.s.c. wrote:
yeah, but what he's saying is that even while it has happened, the majority of the stolen tracks have been written by a very small percentage of the scene....odds of you finding yourself a victim of chip theft is somewhere in the neighborhood of the odds of dying in a car accident...and you don't see most people avoiding cars and buses as a result
Tempest and MegaRan and others (yes, there have been more than two) were not ripped off arbitrarily, they were ripped off because they made good songs. Forgive me for thinking a person who struggles with first semester harmonic theory might compose bad music, but all it takes to prove my assumption wrong is a link to a good song.
If anyone is interested, the first workbook for the classes I took is available here: https://online.berklee.edu/store/produc … p;usca_p=t
There are four, one for each class/semester. If you look at the syllabus for the corresponding class and understand all the topics there, you can skip ahead to the one at your level, and expect to spend 12-16 weeks on each book (if you really dig into it, and can grasp it without needing a teacher.)
When you apply as an in-person student, you are tested on harmony and ear training, and placed into the level appropriate to your results. For instance, I tested into Harmony 3 but needed to start from Ear Training 1.
103 Apr 26, 2016 8:36 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
JaffaCakeMexica wrote:
If anyone can find any mistakes or suggest any improvements please let me know.
- "Capital" roman numerals are for major chords in the classical system.
- "Lowercase" roman numerals are for minor chords, though in jazz analysis ii7 and II-7 are equivalent.
- Suspended chords are not used like the others and don't belong on that chart.
- This system is fine for beginners, but ensures that after a point, your music will sound weak and square.
- You don't need to worry about your music being ripped off by anyone.
- Try bringing this subject up after you've had 2-3 more years of study.
- Ignore the advice you've been given at your own peril.
104 Apr 26, 2016 1:38 am
Re: Labels for the more "prog" side of chip? (21 replies, posted in General Discussion)
pselodux wrote:
haha yeah, fair enough. Perhaps I'll just do some pandering chip EDM for a while so I can get popular and then unleash my mega prog epics on an unsuspecting fan base
Life's too short for that, just make what you like making.
105 Apr 26, 2016 1:22 am
Re: Labels for the more "prog" side of chip? (21 replies, posted in General Discussion)
10k wrote:
stuff
Good to see you around.
106 Apr 26, 2016 1:08 am
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
arlen wrote:
The future is debatable, but I don't see microtonal music as the future. I definitely don't see Western audiences ever getting into it. It'll remain an extreme niche like harsh noise and other areas of music that are far beyond what mass audiences enjoy.
Good examples I've heard in pop music sound like blue notes, borrow from Arabic or Indian styles, or are used for "movie" percussion.
In sample trackers, or any trackers that let you tune an instrument to a pitch, you can make duplicate instruments that are up and down a quarter tone. On VSTs or MIDI synthesizers, you can send a pitch bend instruction.
107 Apr 25, 2016 10:31 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
MaxDolensky wrote:
That's what the whole thread has been about.
My impression is that this thread was created when it should have been a direct message. If Protodome answers the 3 flats question, he deserves the "more patient than I" award, if there is one. Is there one?
108 Apr 25, 2016 9:36 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
arlen wrote:
Maybe I should have gone to school to become a jazz doctor.
I wouldn't have learned it if it wasn't a core classes requirement but I've seen literally everything on wiki. I kept all the old textbooks in assorted relatives' closets for no reason. 
109 Apr 25, 2016 7:31 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
JaffaCakeMexica wrote:
However, I disagree...
Then you're going to fail.
The good news is that it's okay to fail. You're asking a question that takes about two years of classes to be taught.
110 Apr 25, 2016 4:21 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
JaffaCakeMexica wrote:
I dont agree. If I was in C Major then all of the chords I could use would be made up of from the C Major scale, as specified by the key signature.
This is a common misunderstanding. As an exercise, you may consider how you can use F# in the key of C major without abandoning the key. Even if you aren't sure, just contemplate it for a bit.
111 Apr 25, 2016 2:19 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
Fearofdark wrote:
*(I'm not quite sure about that last one. Fm13/Bb can alternatively be voiced as Bb13 as they contain the same notes... I think.. I am not great at 13th chords admittedly
Consider the difference between ii/V/I and IV/V/I, it's a similar relationship.
112 Apr 25, 2016 2:09 pm
Re: Music Theory (109 replies, posted in General Discussion)
The why I answered with a link is because the scope of this question represents at least two semesters of study. When I was first introduced to this kind of harmony, I thought it all sounded like the teacher was mashing keys randomly with open palms. I didn't get the hang of it until a year after I was finished with the class.
If you don't understand the functions of chords (tonic/dominant/subdominant/passing) or how those functions can fit in with scale degrees, I suggest starting there, using chords you already understand how to use. You may learn to use chords this complex with your ears, at a cost of being unable to talk to anybody about what you did. Theory exists as way to objectively understand each other, so it is worth taking the time to learn flats and understand how notes work in the piano or any other instruments.
All that said, I hope you can find your answer eventually.
Edit: A hint about "you can treat one chord as another" is that those two chords have notes in common.