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(48 replies, posted in Constructive Criticism)

Je Mappelle wrote:

I don't really pass my EPs off as strict chiptune. They are all mixture of more hi-fi music that contain aspects and a lot of inspiration from chiptunes. I like to post them on places like here or where people are likely to listen to it.

Monovfox: If that's what you is talking about, then I suggest you take a look at my chiptunes history and know that I have written A LOT of chiptunes over the past 4 years.

I'm going to stop posting now.

Since I've been around, it's been a lot of hi-fi stuff, which is why I have the opinion I have.

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I was trying to point out he could have had more diversity in starting out his songs (for Psifork). I understand drum loops are integral to dance music, but also starting with synths doing something (Deadmau5's Strobe doesn't start with drums. Skrillex's Scary Monsters and Nice Sprites starts with a melody in the synths, etc. I will acknowledge that drum loops are common, but if every song on the album starts with drum loops it can be pretty boring)

Now, I think it would be a good idea to use less theory and stuff. Also, I am definitely going to start referencing modern electronic music. (Also, note, early computer music comes from western classical, John Cage's HPSCHD, early ambient, hell Philip Glass experminted with synthesizers. Frank Zappa did stuff with computers too :v )

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Je Mappelle wrote:

hey monovfox, explain why you mentioned my name in your focal point review

cause, I was ranting. Herp derp.

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Sycamore Drive wrote:

Look, I'm critiquing a critique blog.

I appreciate what you're trying to do, but every post just reads like a total braindump rather than something that anyone other than the reviewer and writer of the music would enjoy reading. The changing font sizes and the poor, often uneven formatting makes for a difficult read.

At the moment, no consideration is given to the casual reader, and I think you should try to take that into consideration.


the change in fonts was kinda an accident (I did it the first time by accident, so then I tried to copy it in each blogpost to keep it consistent). Will change. More causality I will also be doing :v

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(51 replies, posted in Bugs and Requests)

calmdownkidder wrote:

These screeenshots will be the only time my music is relevant


Be proud, it's under favorites big_smile

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(48 replies, posted in Constructive Criticism)

correction: you're not that awful, but I did infact grant your wish tongue . Yeah, you kinda hit the nail on the head. Except I'm fine with avante-garde, I just find your music fairly uninteresting (also,  don't perceive me not liking your music as an attack on your character)

also, thanks for the compliment big_smile

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Victory Road wrote:

Yeah I emailed you a while ago, Mono. Dunno if you got it or not. Come at me bro!


I got really side-tracked with things, will try to get back to reviewing during spring break. (in about a week)

I am working on a big classical music project, hence sidetracked stuff sad

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Jay Tholen wrote:

Rip on me dude, RIP ON ME.

okay, you're awful.

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(5 replies, posted in Releases)

Naiky wrote:

Thanks so much for the critical constructism Monovfox. Account for everything and do a better job soon.


Your welcome tongue

Keep in mind, just my opinion...

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(48 replies, posted in Constructive Criticism)

legitimate points are legitimate. Will be making that change to the blog, once I'm done trying to decide what to review next (I literally have 17 things in the hopper)

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kineticturtle wrote:

I like this blog, good work! However, I'm not sure what to make of this and I'd love it if you would expand on it:

Monofox wrote:

I feel like the chiptunes scene has been lacking much in quality since I entered. In our lives we are constantly bombarded by "DATA CHIP EXTREMECORE1337", "Avante-Garde Chip pop" (note to self, now is not the time to rip on Jay Tholen), and stuff that isn't (according to myself) even chiptune (Sorry, Je Mapelle, you're guilty.)

i.e. you suggest an issue with quality, but then give whole "genres" (which both surely include quality music) as a specific issue. Would you be willing to explain your reasoning?

While you're at it, please DON'T expand on the issue of "stuff that isn't...even chiptune" - that's a can of worms not worth opening. wink

Also, you're from SF - do you go to conservatory, or what? We probably know some people in common, wouldn't surprise me.

I don't go to the conservatory. I'm only a high-school student :v (I wish I went to the conservatory!)

Oh, I don't say those genres are an issue. What I'm saying is too much is out there, and real gems can be lost in the crowd of sub-par releases (I'm not implying that those genres are sub-par, I probably could have worded this last blog better)

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DOUBLE POST.

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egr wrote:

You're doing some good work here.  Anyone that's concerned with the "correct" application of music theory should definitely be reading this blog!

I'm with kineticturtle on the confusing opening paragraph, tho.  I'm constantly looking for "DATA CHIP EXTREMECORE1337" and honestly I find much less of it than I would hope.


What I meant by "DATA CHIP EXTREMECORE1337" are those really just hipster genres of metal that don't matter. Metal is metal, whether or not it is more "melodic" or not does not concern me.

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Victory Road wrote:

i think that was a reference to his last ep, which wasn't "chiptune"
i still thought it was properly cool though

I was not a fan of the piano though (I can do much better piano writing, in my objective opinion) . I will definitely nitpick that (it was actually really good, I must say, but the lack of chiptune qualifies it as "not good chiptune" just how beethoven is "Not good chiptune").

Perhaps I might get rid of a score. Also, I believe any-level headed reviewer would give it a 9. I just really liked the album, alo alot alot alot,

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spacetownsavior wrote:

I like the rigorous use of music theory in the criticism, but I don't think you reeeeeally need those composer references, especially considering that the styles of composition vary so differently. I understand that sometimes classical ("art" music) music has the best examples of a particular compositional technique, but it's also quite possible to separate techniques from content, and I would argue that it is actually MORE beneficial to do so when critiquing.

I think that as a critic, it would be better to frame the criticism in terms of what the artist is trying to do and helping him/her succeed at that objective, i.e. finding those compositional techniques in pieces of the same style and demonstrating why it works or doesn't work for the song in question, rather than simply picking a composer and telling the artist to emulate him/her. It may very well be the case that the technique in question was tried and it simply didn't work due to stylistic limitations, medium limitations, etc.

As an example, why is the lack of a cadence at the end of a song a "mistake" (I just picked the first thing I could find)? Sure, in a traditional classical setting a "fade out" would sound kind of stupid, but consider the context: the song is called "Stars and Skies Forever"! Maybe the "lack" of a cadence is actually the presence of the "fading out" compositional technique designed to question the idea of an "ending", which makes sense because it's supposed to go on forever (according to the title)! So I would caution against trying too hard to fit a classical music context on top of a different style, especially because you might miss ACTUAL things to criticize genre-wise.

And that brings me to my last point: I really dislike the idea of a score for a critique. A score would work in something like a consumer review (in which you're telling someone how to spend their money), but in a critique, scores just feel out of place to me, and it's especially apparent in the VCMG review. You spend almost all your words critiquing the lack of a cadence and the misuse of panning, say that everything else is awesome in what might as well be two sentences, and give him a 9.9/10. As a reader, the dissonance is really striking, considering I just spent half my time reading a critique just to end up at an almost perfect score. It would be better to just nix the scores entirely to focus on critique, imho.

But I like what you're doing here and more blogs/sites doing critique like this can only be a good thing! So keep it up and sorry for the essay smile

But see, a cadence  (in my objective opinion) would make the song better. Remember, the techniques we all use come from classical tradition. Since I'm most familiar with classical genres out of any genre (and it really has influenced music over the past 300 years tremendously) I have used it for reference. I also do link to non-classical stuff. But I link to classical music for a reason.

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A review of VCMG:

http://ravelandshostakovich.blogspot.co … -vcmg.html