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Uh, Anyway, what I'm getting at is, what you are describing is radical, aggressive simplification. Even though the score may be complex, a Commodore 64 is an absurdly limited system, compared to what you can buy these days.

if someone came up to me (as a normal person), and said, "I've made a musical masterpiece on par with Mozart's Die Zauberflöte, entirely on a 25 year old Nintendo gameboy" I would think they were weird, and borderline scary. Why would you use a musical instrument which is so hilariously simple, and outdated, to compose something like that?

We are living in a time when technology has made it possible for one person to compose and score works of limitless complexity, from anywhere. For there to be a group of people who -- instead of using the readily available, fast, and cheap Mac/PC solutions -- seek out obsolete video game systems, which are sort of flakey, and severely limited in terms of music and technology -- this seems to me to make a very strong statement. Almost pathological. It's such a strong rejection of modern music techniques.

If you're a geek who's been programming this technology since it was cutting edge, I guess that's one thing. But I know most of us are not like that. So it's hard for me to believe that making Chip Music is not a rebellious act, in one form or another, for most of us. It's a rejection of something.

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all I said about sharing source materials, is that it invites participation, and makes it accessible. Unlike, for instance, a Dubstep artist who keeps his setup totally secret, or a band who's music only sounds right in a huge stadium that you will never play in, Or a studio band that makes nuanced, amazing, but over-produced, recorded music.

I'd also like to suggest to you the possibility that rebellion is already encoded within chipmusic

Why would someone do that? I'm just saying, it sounds counter productive to impose such limitations on such virtuosic work. Sounds dumb.

It's not descended from punk musically, but has a historical resonance with it possibly. It's a good place for punk ethic.

I was about to write about a difference between punk and chip; That punk rock is musically reactionary. It's anti progress really, at least in terms of technology. That's probably changed a bit over the years, but synth punk is not really common, or iconic.

But at the same time, chipmusic is pretty reactionary too. It's just reactionary from a later date. So I guess that's another similarity. But still, the music is quite different.

I'm pretty high,

F*ck yes

Good tip! I thought it was like Rin, which wants savs to be gzipped. I'll try it out.

That's very true. Alas, the PSP is a bit more convenient for me. But If I have to settle for Rin, it's a no go.

Yes the diatonic harmonica is limited, and you can get creative with the limitations. But even with a harmonica, blowing at different velocities, Moving your lips slightly in any direction, how you hold the harmonica, the temperature of the reeds, the shape of your mouth; these will all yield very different harmonics, with minimal effort. That instrument is a good example of a different set of limitations  that can be very inspiring.

Techno != Electronica.    I think he was saying that bleeps and bloops sound like techno, I may be wrong.

The yellow directional buttons were mostly used for controlling the camera, or launching secondary weapons. The d pad and analog stick were for direction.