iLKke wrote:

Some guy owns the room, but all the stuff in the photo has been on the ground floor of our coveted sharehouse for almost a year now.

Check those disks for fist/strike .MODs!

$$$

Personal favorite:

Australian Bloody Fist party:

Yes, Danger uses Amigas as well:

Funny story about that Mark Salud tune - Mono over at TDS actually got a hold of him and managed to acquire that exact .MOD file for remix purposes. (it may be on Aminet anyway) The release was going to be myself, Hexadeci, Destroyer and CCDM on a 12" vinyl from what I remember.

Fun times!

New info added...

edit: erroneous info

godinpants wrote:

but there's a certain feeling about sitting down at that piano/Amiga that sits in the corner and bash out a track.

I believe half of the protracker screen will be cut off because of the PAL/NTSC difference as well. There are ways around this (I think?) but it's something to keep in mind when using hardware.

Just checked out /r/chiptunes

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why god oh why

I built the little-scale MIDI to Sync24 circuit located here and I'm running into a few issues when using the Arduino Duemilanove. The sketch loaded fine, so I'm thinking it's one of a few areas in my build. Overall it's what I need - 5pin MIDI to Sync24.

- I've noticed the circuit will not work when I ground the Arduino. If I remove the ground, I get a (very unstable) signal. Odd. It's being powered via USB, so perhaps there's a ground loop somewhere?

- Instead of the 4n28 (none available atm), I tested with both the 6n136 and 6n139 optocouplers, similar to the Arduinoboy circuit. Could this be cause for the unstable signal? Could resistor values possibly change this?

- The schematic called for caps on pins 8/9/10 but I did not see any in the actual photo of the circuit. Are these necessary, or just for protection? I did not include these.

I've built DIY MIDI interfaces for other machines and multiple Arduinoboys in the past, but I'm going on day #2 now. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Soundstudio:

Octamed 5:

Octamed 4/3/whatever:

@akira: Ha! Yeah, I see your point. It's something I ask myself every day.

The software mixing isn't as bad as it may seem. It's nothing like the horrible 5-8ch modes found in some previous versions of Octamed/other trackers. You can adjust the mixing frequency during playback, so it's still just as "dirty" as a stock 4 channel sound...just a little different.

@anyone: As far as the version, the lineup is something like this:

Med1/Med2/Med3/Octamed4/Octamed5/Octamed6/Octamed Soundstudio/Octamed Soundstudio 2 (beta...fucking sucks)

On limited memory machines (A500), Octamed4 is generally what you want to use. On machines where you have a bit of memory to spare (A600/A1200) Octamed5 is preferred. For accelerated machines Octamed Soundstudio is unmatched. This is if you want to go the Octamed route, of course. Protracker is by far superior to Octamed when dealing with memory limitations.

Another fun fact: You can use Arexx scripts in Soundstudio to basically write your own plugins.

People can/will argue about this, so take it for what it is. wink

@noobstar: Who's having a pissing match here? A first time amiga user shouldn't have a bunch of unnecessary bloat in their OS. Just sayin!

Why does "f-o-o-l" auto correct to "cat"? Try it!

fool

akira^8GB wrote:

Well I'll chip in again because the Amiga is usually (with some reason) pictured as this humongous unreachable elite beast, but it doesn't need to be that way, specially if your interest is music tracking.

n00bstar wrote:

stuff...

You don't need a 4 way IDE interface (expensive), you should use a CF-IDE adapter (2 dollars) with CF card (15 dollars). Don't block your PCMCIA port because you can get a (cheap) PCMCIA CF or Multicard (SD) reader, great for transfers. You can connect your Amiga hard drive (or CF card) to your PC and read it with WinUAE (free) and install everything you need that way, easily and painless.
Accelerators (extremely expensive) are overpriced and useless for tracking. Speed makes no difference and Fast RAM CANNOT be used for samples, so they are absolutely pointless. Never get one.
Scandoublers (very exepensive) are also NOT needed. Amiga connects to ANY television set (cheap) just fine . Tracking works fine through composite video on any LCD/LED TV, and if you wanna go fancy you get an RGB cable (cheap). Everyone has a TV set at home, no need to mess with a VGA monitor (more expensive)

Software wise, ClassicWB is a bloated install for Amigas with accelerators. Vanilla Workbench install is always best. No bloat. Go straight to AmigaDOS and then run Protracker for best results, no Workbench involved.

To sum up: if you want an Amiga, get it. Get the stock A1200 or A600. It will work great for Protracker, Octamed and many other programs. You can cheaply make it a bit better by adding a CF IDE device but it's not necessary. You can connect it to WHATEVER TV you have at home. And all this is rather accessible price-wise.

WinUAE is fantastic and I love it, but I like the sound output of the AD/DAs of the Amiga. also the keyboard is unbeatable.

I completely agree with this. There was a point when I went through the motions noobstar mentioned (1997/98?) but it's MUCH easier now, with cheap technology widely available. It's still a bitch, but less of one.

I second ClassicWB being bloated as hell. Go with the vanilla install like akira said.

I will add this:

Amigas are expensive (in the US anyway). It wasn't always this way. It has gone from "junk" to "antique." This is a huge part on why I am pro-emulation.

WinUAE is an absolute fuckstory to get working when dealing with CF harddrive cards on actual Amigas. Once you jump through the hoops though, it's passable. Sometimes. At this point you've probably realized you're a sadomasochist anyway. You should be ok if you're just emulating.

akira^8GB wrote:

Accelerators (extremely expensive) are overpriced and useless for tracking. Speed makes no difference and Fast RAM CANNOT be used for samples, so they are absolutely pointless. Never get one.

Fun fact: Octamed Soundstudio allows you to store/play all samples in fast ram. This effectively bypasses all of the sample length limitations found in other programs. You'll need an A1200 (or accelerator) to run it with decent results anyway. Unlimited sample length, 64 tracks of audio, 14bit playback and MIDI. It's software mixed, but you can change screenmodes mid-tracking to "f-o-o-l" it.

Oh, and prepare for some serious MIDI lag if you do go the emulation route.



...do yourself a favor and use Octamed instead of protracker. I'll give a list of reasons if I have to.

Which reminds me, why the f*ck isn't Octamed open source yet?

edit: live set link removed

And I don't say that to be a dick. There are too many variables to break down here, such as model, floppy, ide, pcmcia, tracker etc etc etc. There's even a problem with two different versions of the original .mod standard, which as luck would have it wasn't completely documented from what I understand.

The odds are against new users. I still suggest emulating a 1200.