17 Reply by NonElectronics

(97 replies, posted in General Discussion)

I think Matt's response was worded very intelligently, in a manner that addresses the issue at hand whilst avoiding either admitting to the offending action or denying responsibility.

While I am glad the issue of domain redirection has now been solved, I am still left with the question of whether or not this was something done by a third party or by Matt himself as a means of taking clientele from other vendors, some of which he does business with regularly. As someone who does do wholesale business with him, and having made a rather large purchase just three weeks prior to these domains being registered and redirected, I feel it's important to know the truth of what happened here. I wouldn't want to do business with a wholesaler that would attempt to misdirect my customers any more than I would want to employ a cashier who was taking money out of the cash register.

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18 Reply by NonElectronics

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Biere Gratuite wrote:
NonElectronics wrote:

Also, for the record, I haven't heard an "I didn't do it" yet. Were these domains set up by you initially, Matt?

Flame on!

Hey, stop that.

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19 Reply by NonElectronics

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Also, for the record, I haven't heard an "I didn't do it" yet. Were these domains set up by you initially, Matt?

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20 Reply by NonElectronics

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Matt, I did some digging in regards to kitschbent.com. It looks like it's soon to be released by whomever had it. I sent you an email so you can be prepped to lock that domain down once it's available.

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21 Reply by NonElectronics

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Thanks Kitsch! I appreciate you taking action on this matter. Sorry to pull you away from your busy schedule.

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22 Reply by NonElectronics

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I think that title would be misleading, as Kitsch bent is the handle of the owner of kitsch-bent.com, and we don't really know if these actions were perpetrated by him.

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23 Reply by NonElectronics

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The Laohu wrote:

You're a class act, Nonfinite. This is not a sarcastic comment.

Thanks Lars, I really appreciate that. smile

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24 Reply by NonElectronics

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catskull wrote:

Isn't it illegal to domain camp like this?

I'm not sure. All of the domains that have been purchased that I have seen have the domain registrar details obscured, however, so even if it IS illegal there would be no way of implicating anyone as far as the courts are concerned.

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25 Reply by NonElectronics

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Biere Gratuite wrote:

NonFinite, you're too carefull with the words you're using.
If we're slowly using porn industry manners, I'll cam myself writing song naked for $$.

I'm choosing my words carefully because I am interested in keeping this focused on the point at hand rather than starting a flame war. I appreciate your comment, however, and will let you know if I ever need a private nude dancer/composer.

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26 Reply by NonElectronics

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I have had several people contact me to propose that perhaps these domains were purchased and forwarded by a fan of the kitsch-bent brand rather than by the owner himself.

Initially, my response was "that's doubtful, but possible."

Now, upon further introspection, my stance on this is that it doesn't really matter who did it. The responsive action should still be the same. Get informed and take action to protect your business ventures. I'm offering my assistance in that endeavor, and that's ALL I'm seeking to do at the moment. Once that's resolved we can move on to whom and why.

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27 Reply by NonElectronics

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catskull wrote:

Boo-hoo? If you didn't want nonelectronics.org forwarding to someone else's domain, you should have purchased it yourself.

You're absolutely right. This thread is here to help other store owners do just that. I think I speak for many vendors here in the community when I say we have felt relatively safe about this kind of event occurring up until now. As someone who has been affected by this I feel it's my responsibility to help bring awareness to the rest of the vendors out there that haven't been hit yet.

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28 Reply by NonElectronics

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Can you assist in a relevant renaming of the title, Peter? I'm working as quickly as I can here.

Perhaps "Numerous chiptune stores redirecting to kitsch-bent.com"?

So far my attempts to bring this occurrence to light have been met with pushback. I'm trying to keep this as neutral and informative as possible.

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29 Reply by NonElectronics

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Add Handheld Legend to the list of redirected sites.

.net .org and .co

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30 Reply by NonElectronics

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Based on these recent activities Nonfinite LLC has decided to begin preparations to move to a new domain, which has been purchased as of this morning.

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31 Topic by NonElectronics

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Hi there. Recently it was brought to our attention that several chip store owners, us included, have had their alternate domains purchased. These domains are now forwarding to another store (Update, the redirects have been changed to point to a Google search of kitsch-bent's website, see thread for details on that)

Here are the sites I know of so far that have had their alternate domains purchased and redirected:

Nonfinite Electronics
Thursday Customs
ASM Retro
Handheld Legend

In all three cases .net, .org, and .co alternate domains have been purchased and a redirect has been added to point elsewhere.

All of these domains are presently forwarding to kitsch-bent . com. (Update, the redirects have been changed to point to a Google search of kitsch-bent's website, see thread for details on that)

I have reached out to Matt Edwards, the owner of kitsch bent for comment but have yet to hear back. (Update, Matt has responded. see thread for details)

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I have started an initiative to help other store owners in the realm of chipmusic to get their alternate domains locked down so this does not happen to them as well.

(Update: I now have reports from four separate store owners who have successfully secured their alternate domains as a result of this initiative.)

In the interest of reaching out to as many store owners as I can, I would like to ask for your help compiling a list of known vendors. I will personally be emailing these vendors to offer my assistance in securing any alternate domains if they are left open.

If you know of a vendor site that would like assistance with purchasing an alternate domain but does not wish to advertise their presence here for fear that they too might have their alt domains grabbed before they can do so themselves, you can email me at [email protected].

I will be publishing more details on this soon. Stay [chip]tuned.

-Nonfinite Electronics

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32 Reply by NonElectronics

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Thank ya

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