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b3tabot wrote:
e.s.c. wrote:

incentives should work well esp. in this scene (for evidence check 8static and blip09's kickstarter), so this is probably a good idea if you want to encourage pre-sales smile

Hi guys,
Yeah, we got a couple of ideas....
Actually lots of them....

However, I think people instead of looking for incentives to buy a ticket in advance, they should just stop for a second and take a look of the magnitude of this event.... , then ask yourself if you would like this kind of event to have sequels....

The success of this event and many others to come ( if this one works out ) depends DIRECTLY on how many people show up to this.

There's several fellow promoters, musicians and visualists who are already asking me how to get in on the one for next year when we haven't even made any plans yet . I keep telling them that we have to wait and see how this turns out because if the fans don't show up, then the scene isn't ready for an event of this size yet.

ITS UP TO YOU TO DECIDE HOW BIG THIS GETS.
ME, PFFP, RobotHighFive & JC are just 4 individuals who are giving you a chance to do it.
Show your support by purchasing a ticket in advance... , and bring NEW FANS with you.

Some people performing in the show have a bunch of surprises in store for the fans and I hope everyone has a good time.

Thanks guys.
-BB

This is just reminiscent of Pay-to-Play promoters.
Best of luck though.

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oh wow

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what i was saying was something along the lines of free mp3 comp of some of the artists to those who preorder tickets, if youre trying to encourage advance sales

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This is just reminiscent of Pay-to-Play promoters.

uuhh.... no. this isn't remotely pay to play. where do you even get that from? he is just saying that if it doesn't work and he loses money, he's not going to do it again. understandably.


e.s.c. wrote:

what i was saying was something along the lines of free mp3 comp of some of the artists to those who preorder tickets, if youre trying to encourage advance sales

this is a great idea though

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Why are chiptune artists so goddamn butthurt all the time?

Please tell me things are usually different in person at the actual chip shows.

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BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:

This is just reminiscent of Pay-to-Play promoters.

uuhh.... no. this isn't remotely pay to play. where do you even get that from?

How is it not?

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RG wrote:

Why are chiptune artists so goddamn butthurt all the time?

Please tell me things are usually different in person at the actual chip shows.

well said

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RG wrote:

Why are chiptune artists so goddamn butthurt all the time?

Please tell me things are usually different in person at the actual chip shows.

They are, but I've seen some awkwardly hostile tone coming from all sides and it's really putting me off... it'd be nicer if people were a bit less reactive and a lot more diplomatic.

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Dauragon wrote:

Let the bodies hit the

FLLLOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOORRRRRR

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Guys.
I have a lot of love for this scene and I think there is a great deal of potential here to expand and to make it bigger than what it is.
As a fan of the scene, I wanted to create this event to give everyone a chance to appeal to bigger crowds by throwing a party as big as this one.  I have previous experience in doing live events since my family has been doing this for decades, so I guarantee you the show will be of top quality audio and management. Plus when you guys arrive at the venue, you'll realize this is a venue of very high standards.

Forget about the money. I've invested a great deal of TIME into this simply because I believe in this scene.
I want it to expand, I want it to flourish and I want you guys to benefit by it.

I am not trying to compete with anyone or disrespect anyone or shut down anyone's ideas.
From what you guys have seen, I have been very respectful towards everyone and I am only here to help.
I am very open minded and I am more than happy to sit down with anyone in the scene who wishes to help out and talk things over on how we could be doing things better. ( I will be at Pulsewave on April 17th, come over and have some beers with us after the show )

The whole point of Chip-Con is to HELP THE SCENE GROW.

I am willing to work with anyone who wants to help this cause and I'm sure we all share a common interest here, which is the passion that we have for the music that is being created. Otherwise we wouldn't be here everyday listening to the songs that fellow musicians have been recording, and reading the forums where we can see how the scene evolves.

Now, People have been picking this show apart criticizing just about everything.
I am not entirely sure what is so wrong about giving 23 artists a chance to perform to a big crowd, sell some merchandise and filling a void for a summer chip festival in NYC.

This one thread alone has been very harmful for this event. JC, which is one of the 4 people funding this event, has not been comfortable at all with the negative reactions coming from ---artists themselves---.
The whole point was to help you guys, ( the artists )  but it almost seems to me that you guys don't want this to happen.

This week that is starting will be the busiest by far regarding the work that is being put in this event, and coming here and reading such negative comments from you guys seems very disappointing and it's killing the initial buzz we had on my crew when we started planning this out.

Being accused of being a pay to play promoter has been very disrespectful since the event has been fully funded in it's entirety and the point I was trying to make was very simple, I'm ok with not breaking even, but if we don't, most likely next year this event will not  happen again. I want you guys to remember that we have NEVER asked for help via kickstarters. Not like there's anything wrong with that, but I personally have never asked people for money to be able to afford a project I've been involved with before simply because the room for misunderstandings and accusations increases when we use someone else's money.

I called financial backup from people that trust me and have worked in previous projects I've organized in the past, and they still believe in this event, but the mood in here is starting to change their minds about investing in a group of individuals who don't waste a second in trolling every detail, including the poster of the event which was a great deal of work and time from PFFP. All she wanted to do was to create excitement and in return she got negative feedback simply because ---not everyone--- uses a Gameboy.

I understand you guys have questions and you are curious about a set of individuals who you never heard from before until now, and this is happening simply because we never thought of doing this show to begin with. We were just fans in the crowd who never felt the need to socialize with the artists or promoters involved in the scene because we were just there to have fun. We liked the music. In fact, we love it so much that we decided to give it a chance and use our full resources to put this massive event together.

All I'm asking is from you guys is to realize that we are just here to help and we are doing this for you.
75% of the people in this thread are artists themselves and we cannot do this without having you on our side.

If we tried to book you and it didn't work out, please forgive us, we will try harder next year if this event goes well.
After all, there are limits to what we can and we cannot do. We cannot possibly be able to make everyone happy.

Now, please accept my apologies regarding the size of this post, but as a final note, I hope this clears out doubts and questions you guys had and can we PLEASE move on and make this party happen? We need you on our side because we have always been on your side. This isn't a competition, it's a cooperation. Please remember that.

Coming to this thread and having to answer questions/clearing up rumors/criticism has been taking away a lot of time from work I should be doing in order to make the event happen. I'd like to respectfully ask you all to address this concerns privately via email since if we keep going this way, the event will keep deteriorating. Mail me: b3tabot AT me DOT com

This event WILL HAPPEN NO MATTER WHAT since we have already signed a contract with the venue and to cancel the event will be a disastrous financial move. Rain or shine this event will go on, so I'd like to thank everyone who has had some sort of contribution to the shape this event is taking. Your comments regardless of being positive or negative have helped us see what we are coming against and what we will be facing from now on until May31st.

Let's just start fresh again, since after all, there's still almost 2 months until this happens.
Thank you all. I hope we are able to throw a party which you can remember for a lifetime. 
---11 hours, 23 artists, and lots of other surprises---

- RC/BB

Last edited by B3tabot (Apr 5, 2010 10:27 am)

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Active Knowledge wrote:

it'd be nicer if people were a bit less reactive and a lot more chiplomatic.

fixd?

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little-scale wrote:
Active Knowledge wrote:

it'd be nicer if people were a bit less reactive and a lot more chiplomatic.

fixd?

I see what you did there. ;D

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Is anyone filming the event?
It would be a great idea to make some DVD stuff with the live show and selling it or whatever for those who can't attend.

What you think?

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LBC wrote:

Is anyone filming the event?
It would be a great idea to make some DVD stuff with the live show and selling it or whatever for those who can't attend.

What you think?

There's a couple of plans regarding this.
I don't want to announce projects which haven't been completely worked out, but yes, there will be footage somehow.
I will make sure of this.

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b3tabot wrote:
LBC wrote:

Is anyone filming the event?
It would be a great idea to make some DVD stuff with the live show and selling it or whatever for those who can't attend.

What you think?

There's a couple of plans regarding this.
I don't want to announce projects which haven't been completely worked out, but yes, there will be footage somehow.
I will make sure of this.

:]

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akira^8GB wrote:
BR1GHT PR1MATE wrote:

uuhh.... no. this isn't remotely pay to play. where do you even get that from?

How is it not?

becuase people are getting paid to play

roger, if I were you i'd ask a mod to cut down on this thread, or create a new one - it reflects badly on the event (through no fault of your own)

Last edited by Sabrepulse (Apr 5, 2010 12:38 pm)