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Austin, Texas
Saskrotch wrote:

i feel like you could really easily change this into an informercial

"people love chiptune, but it's so hard to make!"

Hopefully they can get the narrator from the Dr. Drum promo video.

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BK
Saskrotch wrote:

i feel like you could really easily change this into an informercial

"people love chiptune, but it's so hard to make!"

"Chiptune gets you laid, but who has the TIME these days? Inputting all those notes! Pesky Sav file corruption! Keeping your screamo adequately separated! It's TOO MUCH WORK! Well, NOT ANYMORE."

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Brunswick, GA USA
Saskrotch wrote:

i feel like you could really easily change this into an informercial

"people love chiptune, but it's so hard to make!"

Order now, and we'll throw in a second one for free, just pay $99.99 s/h.

I wish it had a bit more synth ability on the board as it is sold, because if it's going to be priced like a monome, it should be as powerful as one. I wouldn't mind seeing its software to find out how easy it would be to modify it for noise and wavetables or polyphony or some kind.

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ad-hell-aide

When I saw the title of this thread I was really hoping for a CPS1 / CPS2 board hybrid rack mounted device with MIDI USB input capabilities and an SD card slot.

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Chicago IL, USA
Telerophon wrote:
Saskrotch wrote:

i feel like you could really easily change this into an informercial

"people love chiptune, but it's so hard to make!"

Hopefully they can get the narrator from the Dr. Drum promo video.

WARNING: Plays (unintentionally hilarious) video upon loading.

the slang in that video is too much.

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Austin, Texas

I know, right? I didn't think I could cringe and chuckle simultaneously that many times in ten minutes.

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Sweden

This thing is ridiculous. To me it's just a really uncomfortable looking keyboard with a sound palette short of that of a stylophone.

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washington
dasid wrote:

It just looks so Canadian

So much this.

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Chicago IL
little-scale wrote:

When I saw the title of this thread I was really hoping for a CPS1 / CPS2 board hybrid rack mounted device with MIDI USB input capabilities and an SD card slot.

i would LOVE some CPS action

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Medina, Ohio

This thing looks terrible...anyone agree? Also, sounds not good as well. That's a bad combination.

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I'm the creator of the Pianocade. I saw some traffic from this thread and figured I'd chime in. For those of you who like it, thank you! For those of you who don't, well, I'm sorry to hear that, but I understand that it's not for everyone.

Obviously if you hate the form factor, sound, or concept there's not much I can do to change your mind, but I did see a few comments that I think are incorrect that I wanted to clear up:

nitro2k01 wrote:
egr wrote:

15 patches of a single square wave?  That seems like a shame, maybe you can add other waveforms through the firmware or something...

It's probably using a single digital pin of a microcontroller to output the sound. A shame indeed really, considering how easy it is to build a cheapo passive 4-8 bit DAC using only 4-8 digital output pins and a bunch of resistors. That way you can have a sawtooth or triangle or more complex waveforms pretty easily.

The Pianocade DOES have a 4 bit DAC. In each patch the waves can be modulated in frequency, duty cycle, and volume; it should be able to do anything that one of the NES or Game Boy pulse channels can do. The firmware DOES support outputting other 4 bit waveforms, although it requires a bit more tinkering. Of course, since the DAC is 4 bit, the waveforms can't have much in the way of volume modulation.

chunter wrote:

...I wish it had a bit more synth ability on the board as it is sold, because if it's going to be priced like a monome, it should be as powerful as one. I wouldn't mind seeing its software to find out how easy it would be to modify it for noise and wavetables or polyphony or some kind.

I'm not sure I understand the first part of this comment: the monome isn't a synthesizer, and the cheapest model they've ever sold costs $175 MORE than the most expensive Pianocade. The kit versions are comparable in price, but with the Pianocade you get a synthesizer AND a controller, whereas the monome does not have any synthesis abilities.

As for the hackability, modifying it for noise would be simple, and there's a good chance I'll add it. Wavetables it already can do, as mentioned above. Polyphony would be harder with the current setup, but not impossible.

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Austin, Texas

Whoah, cool, thanks for stopping in to give us the juicy tech details!

Don't mind the haters, we are just silly people on the internet. It is cool that you thought of this and then made it; people (myself included) joking about the looks shouldn't be payed any mind.

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Puerto Rico
A. Square wrote:

I'm the creator of the Pianocade. I saw some traffic from this thread and figured I'd chime in. For those of you who like it, thank you! For those of you who don't, well, I'm sorry to hear that, but I understand that it's not for everyone.

[Tech specs here]

TALK ABOUT HOW YOU ACHIEVE THE ARPS.

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Xuriik wrote:

TALK ABOUT HOW YOU ACHIEVE THE ARPS.

To play an arp, you just hold down multiple keys. It will arpeggiate based on the current settings for speed and order.

The code maintains a buffer of which notes are currently sounding, which combines the notes from three sources: the local keyboard (unless it's been turned off with MIDI local mode off messages), the current held notes, and currently playing MIDI notes. The arpeggiator has its own clock. The clock speed is set on a per-patch basis and can be adjusted manually using the secondary function of the joystick.

When the clock fires the current arpeggiator function is called, which selects the next note in the buffer based on the current ordering. There are currently five order functions: ascending, descending, ping-pong, random, and order pressed. I'm considering adding some "pseudo-modes," specifically portamento, but I have some ideas for others. The order is also set on a per-patch basis, but can be changed live using secondary functions as well.

If the Pianocade receives a MIDI clock "start" signal then the arpeggiator clock is overwritten and the MIDI clock signal is used instead. The arpeggiator fires every 24 ticks by default (because the MIDI spec is 24 ticks per quarter note) but other rhythms can be selected, too. A MIDI clock "stop" returns control to the local clock.

The arpeggios can selectively be output over MIDI (see here for a demo: Alternatively, the Pianocade can be set to output polyphony over MIDI instead.

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Toronto, Ontario, Canada

The arcade buttons are actually surprisingly comfortable. I guess that's because I have experience with both keyboards and arcade machines.

However, for those of you who don't have experience with arcade hardware I saw a classical pianist step up to the Pianocade and he had no trouble playing Flight of the Bumblebee. This isn't someone involved in the project who'd been practicing all day long,  it was just a average musician.

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matt's mind

thanks so much for chiming in to this thread!  we love talking to the brains wink